Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: andrews1958]
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01/17/21 07:18 PM
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Prayers for your strength first. Second, I had to deal with a close friend turned addict. We tried very hard to help, but with a Fentanyl laced batch of heroin we lost. Ask your pharmacist for a Narcan nasal spray. It won't cure a addiction, but it may give you a chance to help. Again Prayers for strength, it's everywhere.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: Finster]
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01/17/21 07:19 PM
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Prison does drug testing and if you test positive, you get another charge and usually sent to a higher security. eventually, he will have no choice but to be clean or at least clean most of the time. Enough time for reflection. It may help him, it may not. However, this isn't really about him, it's about the people he affects. With him in prison, the rest of the family can live their lives. That's what it's about. He made his choices in life, no need for the family to pay. Here in Maine and nh they still get what they want in prison.My wife son and brother brag about it.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: SJA]
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01/17/21 07:20 PM
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Bruce T, did you miss the point? Prison is not going to stop anything.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: andrews1958]
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01/17/21 07:21 PM
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My family is going through a difficult time, as my brother-in-law at 58 years old is a meth head. He was once a multi-millionaire but now a broke,brain fried, toothless, scabby drug addict that you would not recognize who is has been in jail at least 4 times in the last few years. He has now moved close to my 87-year-old mother in law who lives in a semi -retirement community.
She is a true codependent who will never change at her age. She continues to protect and make excuses for him and continues to give him money. Probably more than we know about. He also works at this community doing errands for elderly people. I am sure he is somehow stealing off them but we cannot prove it.
At 62 and I do not want to deal with drugs and drama but we feel as though we need to protect her and her community from him. Has anyone else dealt with a meth head in their family? Did the same happening to you? What are your thoughts for options on dealing with this family crises? We have tried to get him in a rehab program but he will not go. Maybe I lived to close to” Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood” but I never even knew what meth was that he was or that he was an addict until I visited him in jail. I am so glad know that I did not bail him out. We were so hurt from the lies that he had told us. I actually gave him over $40,000 within a two year period as he was family just to help him out as I thought he was just going through some real bad times. He lost his job. Went bankrupt. Lost his home and car. Call me stupid for doing so but I had absolutely no idea that drugs were involved with all the bad luck that he was having.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: Canvasback2]
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01/17/21 07:21 PM
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I say just cut them off the drugs COLD TURKEY !!! No Drug treatment clinics . Just take the drugs away from them, lock them in a room; and FORCE THEM TO GO THROUGH THE WITHDRAWAL! How?They won't go to drug rehab.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: Bruce T]
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01/17/21 07:23 PM
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Bruce T, did you miss the point? Prison is not going to stop anything. Correct. The Tiger must stop itself.
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: andrews1958]
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01/17/21 07:24 PM
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My family is going through a difficult time, as my brother-in-law at 58 years old is a meth head. He was once a multi-millionaire but now a broke,brain fried, toothless, scabby drug addict that you would not recognize who is has been in jail at least 4 times in the last few years. He has now moved close to my 87-year-old mother in law who lives in a semi -retirement community.
She is a true codependent who will never change at her age. She continues to protect and make excuses for him and continues to give him money. Probably more than we know about. He also works at this community doing errands for elderly people. I am sure he is somehow stealing off them but we cannot prove it.
At 62 and I do not want to deal with drugs and drama but we feel as though we need to protect her and her community from him. Has anyone else dealt with a meth head in their family? Did the same happening to you? What are your thoughts for options on dealing with this family crises? We have tried to get him in a rehab program but he will not go. Maybe I lived to close to” Mr. Roger’s Neighborhood” but I never even knew what meth was that he was or that he was an addict until I visited him in jail. I am so glad know that I did not bail him out. We were so hurt from the lies that he had told us. I actually gave him over $40,000 within a two year period as he was family just to help him out as I thought he was just going through some real bad times. He lost his job. Went bankrupt. Lost his home and car. Call me stupid for doing so but I had absolutely no idea that drugs were involved with all the bad luck that he was having. Seems like you don't want advice but more of an ear?
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: andrews1958]
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01/17/21 07:25 PM
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Correct. The Tiger must stop itself.
And they don't want to or can't due to the drugs chemically changing their brains.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: andrews1958]
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01/17/21 07:25 PM
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Fix up the basement. Shackles and chains. A camping bucket for him to do his business. Modest meal and water 3 times a day. Don’t speak a word to him for 30 days. Once he dries out and can think rationally, begin the conversation about his future and how you will help him recover and set upon a healthy path.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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01/17/21 07:27 PM
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Fix up the basement. Shackles and chains. A camping bucket for him to do his business. Modest meal and water 3 times a day. Don’t speak a word to him for 30 days. Once he dries out and can think rationally, begin the conversation about his future and how you will help him recover and set upon a healthy path. Sure sounds good but police would have you for kidnapping, torture,etc.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: Bruce T]
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01/17/21 07:29 PM
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Fix up the basement. Shackles and chains. A camping bucket for him to do his business. Modest meal and water 3 times a day. Don’t speak a word to him for 30 days. Once he dries out and can think rationally, begin the conversation about his future and how you will help him recover and set upon a healthy path. Sure sounds good but police would have you for kidnapping, torture,etc. LOL.... that's what I was going to say. Except for the violent felonies, it might just work. On the bright side, maybe you could be bunkies in prison.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: andrews1958]
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01/17/21 07:34 PM
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When it comes to being an addict the 1st that needs to happen in recovery process the must want to get better and realize that they do have a problem with out that happening there ain't no fixing it.
My cousins been on a down hill spiral last few years he finally hit rock bottom 6 months ago been in jail for 4 months then asked for help he is now in a rehab clinic has been for 2 months he seems like his old self putting weight back on and can actually have a full conversation. So hopefully he is on his way to being clean only time will tell. Once he gets out and back to real life it may go south again its all in there mind set they have to fight it daily
Only thing you can do is protect yourselves and be there once he hits rock bottom and wants to face his demons
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: andrews1958]
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01/17/21 07:36 PM
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My sister in law was strung out pretty bad on heroine there for a while back when she was in her early 20s. Bad enough to the point that her parents finally threw their hands up and said we cannot deal with this anymore while also raising a young son. Usual stuff. Lying, stealing, etc. She used to borrow money from her younger sister constantly and would call her selfish if she denied. She would only ever come to our house if she was high and needed a place to sleep. I finally told her if she can’t come over without being high she is no longer welcome here. She was ALWAYS the victim in every situation. Could never admit fault for any of it. Her grandparents finally took her in and thankfully she eventually straightened up and got herself through med school. Im glad she finally straightened up but she still doesn’t care for me or her sister or parents. Sees it as we all just turned our backs on her. She still won’t take any responsibility for what she put everyone through. Claims she was out of her mind when she was high so she shouldn’t be held responsible for her actions. Isn’t smart enough to see that she made the conscious decision to try the drugs so everything that unfolded afterwards is on her. Best way to avoid addiction is to not try the drug!
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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01/17/21 07:36 PM
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Fix up the basement. Shackles and chains. A camping bucket for him to do his business. Modest meal and water 3 times a day. Don’t speak a word to him for 30 days. Once he dries out and can think rationally, begin the conversation about his future and how you will help him recover and set upon a healthy path. I hope you just forgot to put a after that statement or a J/K . . . or else you may have issues. HA! . . . and be the one to end up in shackles.
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
[Re: Bruce T]
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01/17/21 07:38 PM
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I say just cut them off the drugs COLD TURKEY !!! No Drug treatment clinics . Just take the drugs away from them, lock them in a room; and FORCE THEM TO GO THROUGH THE WITHDRAWAL! How?They won't go to drug rehab. , Like I said, Just lock them in a room . Locked up in a Concrete block root cellar would keep them from getting any drugs
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
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01/17/21 07:40 PM
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My sister in law was strung out pretty bad on heroine there for a while back when she was in her early 20s. Bad enough to the point that her parents finally threw their hands up and said we cannot deal with this anymore while also raising a young son. Usual stuff. Lying, stealing, etc. She used to borrow money from her younger sister constantly and would call her selfish if she denied. She would only ever come to our house if she was high and needed a place to sleep. I finally told her if she can’t come over without being high she is no longer welcome here. She was ALWAYS the victim in every situation. Could never admit fault for any of it. Her grandparents finally took her in and thankfully she eventually straightened up and got herself through med school. Im glad she finally straightened up but she still doesn’t care for me or her sister or parents. Sees it as we all just turned our backs on her. She still won’t take any responsibility for what she put everyone through. Claims she was out of her mind when she was high so she shouldn’t be held responsible for her actions. Isn’t smart enough to see that she made the conscious decision to try the drugs so everything that unfolded afterwards is on her. Best way to avoid addiction is to not try the drug! Don't let people put the quilt trip on you. If you don't let it start, you don't have to stop it!
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: A Meth Head in the Family
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01/17/21 07:45 PM
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My sister in law was strung out pretty bad on heroine there for a while back when she was in her early 20s. Bad enough to the point that her parents finally threw their hands up and said we cannot deal with this anymore while also raising a young son. Usual stuff. Lying, stealing, etc. She used to borrow money from her younger sister constantly and would call her selfish if she denied. She would only ever come to our house if she was high and needed a place to sleep. I finally told her if she can’t come over without being high she is no longer welcome here. She was ALWAYS the victim in every situation. Could never admit fault for any of it. Her grandparents finally took her in and thankfully she eventually straightened up and got herself through med school. Im glad she finally straightened up but she still doesn’t care for me or her sister or parents. Sees it as we all just turned our backs on her. She still won’t take any responsibility for what she put everyone through. Claims she was out of her mind when she was high so she shouldn’t be held responsible for her actions. Isn’t smart enough to see that she made the conscious decision to try the drugs so everything that unfolded afterwards is on her. Best way to avoid addiction is to not try the drug! Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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