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need suggestions for building a LIZARD cage #7142364
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we had a family pet pass unexpectedly , and we are getting a bearded dragon to fill the void for the kids, the dragon is cheap but the enclosures are EXPENSIVE, any suggestions? wire or glass.

thanks

Re: need suggestions for building a LIZARD cage [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7142379
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Both is what I’ve seen
Make sure to put enough access doors which is dependent on total size.
I’d Google “lizard cage plans “ and similar variations. Reptile cage plans, etc.


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Re: need suggestions for building a LIZARD cage [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7142385
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The kids have two. One is in a 50 gallon fish tank and the other, since it is still small, is in a 20 or 30 gallon tank.


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Re: need suggestions for building a LIZARD cage [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7142390
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Call around to pet stores.
Ask for a 'leaker' aquarium.
I got a 50gal aquarium for $50 years ago that way for the Boa Constrictor I had at the time.


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Re: need suggestions for building a LIZARD cage [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7142418
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Bearded Dragons are from hot, dry areas in Australia and spend a lot of time in the tropical sun.

Because of this, they need basking temperatures of over 100 degrees and also require a high level of UVB lighting, in order to produce Vitamin D, needed to metabolize calcium.

They require low humidity and no water bowl is necessary for drinking, although they will want to bath once in a while.

Screen enclosures will not allow you to keep the temps up where they should, and glass will also be difficult to hold enough heat, due to its very low R-value. Screen is also very abrasive and the animals will damage themselves seeking an escape route and/or exploring. Neither of these materials as a main component is going to help your pet be healthy and successful.

The better enclosure will be a box made mostly of plywood. Solid bottom, back and sides. Sliding glass doors on the front (buy a track at the lumber store/glass at the hardware store. Make sure the edges are polished as to not be sharp. A solid top with cut-out for lighting will be fine, and Bearded Dragons don;t jump well, so upward escape is not usually a problem if the enclosure is deep enough for proper lighting/eat distribution anyway.

Aquariums are not ideal, due to the top entry and the ground-dwelling lizard perceiving any action from above as danger. When the keeper comes in from above, it spooks the animal and makes it harder to tame. If an aquarium is used, it is recommended to insulate the back and sides, and to partially cover the top to try to hold heat in.

The lizard will need a 'hot spot', a rock with a floodlight hanging over it, in order to bask and bring his internal temperatures up. This hot spot should be at one end, so the lizard can move away from the heat and self-regulate his temperatures. A small T-5 HO fluorescent fixture with a *good quality* UVB bulb should be located over his basking spot, and close enough to allow him to absorb enough radiation to produce his VitD.

Without sufficient heat, the Bearded dragon cannot digest food properly, will not thrive and will die before his time.

Without sufficient calcium supplement and abundant UVB lighting, the Bearded Dragon will suffer "MBD" (metabolic bone disease) due to lack of calcium uptake and become both deformed and in pain, often becoming paralyzed.

With good care and diet, Bearded Dragons can be happy, healthy and (relatively) active.

There are quite a few "care sheets" out for bearded dragons, because they are such popular pets:
https://www.reptilesmagazine.com/bearded-dragon-care-sheet/
https://reptile.guide/bearded-dragon-care-guide/

This is a decent site for more information: https://www.beardeddragon.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=65

I am experienced in successfully keeping bearded dragons and monitor lizards. Feel free to message me with any questions.


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Re: need suggestions for building a LIZARD cage [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7142495
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Lot of good info there, Wow!^^^


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Re: need suggestions for building a LIZARD cage [Re: E.Shell] #7142502
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Originally Posted by E.Shell
Bearded Dragons are from hot, dry areas in Australia and spend a lot of time in the tropical sun.

Because of this, they need basking temperatures of over 100 degrees and also require a high level of UVB lighting, in order to produce Vitamin D, needed to metabolize calcium.

They require low humidity and no water bowl is necessary for drinking, although they will want to bath once in a while.

Screen enclosures will not allow you to keep the temps up where they should, and glass will also be difficult to hold enough heat, due to its very low R-value. Screen is also very abrasive and the animals will damage themselves seeking an escape route and/or exploring. Neither of these materials as a main component is going to help your pet be healthy and successful.

The better enclosure will be a box made mostly of plywood. Solid bottom, back and sides. Sliding glass doors on the front (buy a track at the lumber store/glass at the hardware store. Make sure the edges are polished as to not be sharp. A solid top with cut-out for lighting will be fine, and Bearded Dragons don;t jump well, so upward escape is not usually a problem if the enclosure is deep enough for proper lighting/eat distribution anyway.

Aquariums are not ideal, due to the top entry and the ground-dwelling lizard perceiving any action from above as danger. When the keeper comes in from above, it spooks the animal and makes it harder to tame. If an aquarium is used, it is recommended to insulate the back and sides, and to partially cover the top to try to hold heat in.

The lizard will need a 'hot spot', a rock with a floodlight hanging over it, in order to bask and bring his internal temperatures up. This hot spot should be at one end, so the lizard can move away from the heat and self-regulate his temperatures. A small T-5 HO fluorescent fixture with a *good quality* UVB bulb should be located over his basking spot, and close enough to allow him to absorb enough radiation to produce his VitD.

Without sufficient heat, the Bearded dragon cannot digest food properly, will not thrive and will die before his time.

Without sufficient calcium supplement and abundant UVB lighting, the Bearded Dragon will suffer "MBD" (metabolic bone disease) due to lack of calcium uptake and become both deformed and in pain, often becoming paralyzed.

With good care and diet, Bearded Dragons can be happy, healthy and (relatively) active.

There are quite a few "care sheets" out for bearded dragons, because they are such popular pets:
https://www.reptilesmagazine.com/bearded-dragon-care-sheet/
https://reptile.guide/bearded-dragon-care-guide/

This is a decent site for more information: https://www.beardeddragon.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=65

I am experienced in successfully keeping bearded dragons and monitor lizards. Feel free to message me with any questions.

yes lots of good info, thanks so much!

Re: need suggestions for building a LIZARD cage [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7142813
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I was about to start a whole write up but E. Shell nailed it great job. beardies are so fun and have really cool personalities! I have a crested gecko as well as a pastel ball python and a red tail Columbian boa next will probably be some beardies! good luck on your endeaver bigfoot!

Re: need suggestions for building a LIZARD cage [Re: bigfoottrapper] #7142830
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Most people who get a reptile don't keep it long. Craigslist and other similar websites, have a multitude of cheap, well designed reptile habitats and other supplies. They have cheap reptiles too.

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