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Butcher pigs #7142641
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For all you guys that fatten up pigs to butcher, do you feed a complete feed or your own ration? Better to pen them up on dirt or concrete

I’m getting two piglets next weekend the weigh around 30 pounds

Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142736
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Back in the day I remember a neighbor who fed out little pigs he bought for almost nothing or took in on trade for used truck parts (he owned a salvage yard).

Anyway he fed 3 day old bread. There was a day old bread outlets store in town and they would give him anything that aged out on their shelves. While the rest of the world cringed when the hog market would dip he didn't care at all b/c his cost per pound was all but nothing.

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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142745
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They also love aged out donuts.

Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142750
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Im not sure from the stories I have been told that they wont get fat on about anything you can throw at them.


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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142751
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Soybean meal and Corn. Need a Higher percentage when they are young then you can back off the amount of soybean meal used when older.
You can probably google the a feed chart. But soybean meal mixed with corn. Then Kitchen slop is what I feed mine.

Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142763
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Feed a good starter/grower until about 175 lbs then switch to a finisher. As a meat cutter you can till the difference on how they were fed. Slop and trash fed hogs show it on the cutting board.

Haven't run the numbers in a while but with feed costs and cut and wrap fees you were able to buy a whole pig cheaper if you watched sale prices and bought the pieces you really wanted.

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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142788
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Not to be a downer, but the current local, market price on butcher weight hogs is 35 cents a pound, which means you can buy a butcher size, 250 pound hog for $87.50. 35 cents a pound is considerably higher than what butcher hog prices were most of last year. I personally can't justify raising a hog when I can buy one cheaper, without all the work, mess and smell.

Keith

Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142803
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I've had butcher's tell me as soon as they start grinding the hog they can tell if it was raised on concrete or dirt,and if they could choose they would eat one raised on dirt.

Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142811
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I think it's been a long, loooong time since it was cheaper to raise your own meat vs buying it. Obviously buying feed by the bag will never be near the price of buying by the truckload. People can't believe what I spend to butcher my own steer, even when I do the butchering myself.

Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142817
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Watch them tear into a road kill and you will never trust one again......jk


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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142822
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I’ve got the place to feed em and will be chording other livestock anyway so the work and mess don’t bother me. I’ve eaten hogs that were fed a lot of slop and while the meat tasted ok it was extremely fatty, the hogs we bought last spring with the big hog farms were with out a market tasted great ans had just about the right fat content. We are doing this as mainly to get a quality product we made ourselves

Re: Butcher pigs [Re: nate] #7142843
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Originally Posted by nate
I've had butcher's tell me as soon as they start grinding the hog they can tell if it was raised on concrete or dirt,and if they could choose they would eat one raised on dirt.

Why?


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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142887
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We feed out a soy, corn protein. Mineral mix

Buy it by the 500#


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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142906
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I know some people that get all the free unwanted food from the food cupboards to feed to their pigs in NH.


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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7142935
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Right now it costs more to raise hogs than to buy a growed out one.

But you know what is in it if you raise it.


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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: 330-Trapper] #7143175
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by nate
I've had butcher's tell me as soon as they start grinding the hog they can tell if it was raised on concrete or dirt,and if they could choose they would eat one raised on dirt.

Why?



Main reason they said the fat was nasty more like glue. The fat on the other wasn't was more like beef fat.

Myself I would prefer dirt raised. But would take either.

Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7143181
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we bought 300lb hogs in may had a kill date six weeks later. all we fed was corn to keep weight up. they weighed 333lbs when we took them in


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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: nate] #7143213
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Originally Posted by nate
I've had butcher's tell me as soon as they start grinding the hog they can tell if it was raised on concrete or dirt,and if they could choose they would eat one raised on dirt.

You can tell from the first cut with a knife too. I have always raised hogs on dirt and never knew any different until a cousin got some hogs from a concrete floor operation. We killed his two the same day as a few I had ready and hung them overnight. The next morning when we started cutting the dirt raised hogs was much more solidly muscled than the floor hogs. The hogs off of concrete had good muscle, but it was mushier than that of the dirt raised hogs. The dirt hogs was a darker color of muscle as well. As for sausage we could tell no difference, but the chops taste better from the dirt raised hogs. Both are good eating, but I prefer dirt raised hogs.

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Originally Posted by Andrew Eastwood
Originally Posted by nate
I've had butcher's tell me as soon as they start grinding the hog they can tell if it was raised on concrete or dirt,and if they could choose they would eat one raised on dirt.

You can tell from the first cut with a knife too. I have always raised hogs on dirt and never knew any different until a cousin got some hogs from a concrete floor operation. We killed his two the same day as a few I had ready and hung them overnight. The next morning when we started cutting the dirt raised hogs was much more solidly muscled than the floor hogs. The hogs off of concrete had good muscle, but it was mushier than that of the dirt raised hogs. The dirt hogs was a darker color of muscle as well. As for sausage we could tell no difference, but the chops taste better from the dirt raised hogs. Both are good eating, but I prefer dirt raised hogs.

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Been in dirt pens.

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Re: Butcher pigs [Re: Michael Lippold] #7143946
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Best pork was spoke on a very recent post.
Garbage fed hogs taste the same. All scrap crap equals poor weak meat.
Grain fed with some sweets (apples and pears) and veggies and youre good.
Ghetto feed equals ghetto taste.
Edit...if you're doing it to survive, do what you gotta...

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