"There are two sides of the fence, use marijuana and give up gun ownership or give up marijuana and be a gun owner."

So a guy I used to work with that retired messaged me last night. He has cancer and said he got his pot card. He said the dispensary is right here by my work and I jokingly said well maybe I should join up. His reply kind of surprised me when he said there was only one hitch... I'd have to give up my gun rights. So I did a little reading and sure enough. The ol state law verses federal law contradicting each other deal. i.e. state laws governing medical marijuana drug use vs federal law governing the sale, purchase, and ownership of guns and ammo.

So I'm sure there are people on here that have their cards. The one guy from Michigan used to have some interesting posts actually. So the people on this site with a card I'm sure haven't given up anything and I get that ok so don't go buy a new rifle and fill out the form if you have a card, but you aren't allowed to posses guns or ammo either. Say you even half accept that to not have say your CCW carry in your car at the same time as your pot gummy bears when you get pulled over but really it applies to you in your home as well. Just doesn't seem right to have cancer, need a legal drug, and have to give up your 2nd A rights!

I can't see being 60 years old, having cancer, needing a drug, and giving up your rights to hunt. Thats just wrong.

Maybe its been talked about on here before that I have missed but I see that its already been to and lost at the Nevada Supreme court which is very pro gun from what I remember.

I see there is a bill to decriminalize weed federally so it isn't listed with the hard drugs which solves the problem but who knows what Biden is going to do with it and gun ownership in general.

What say you?


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As far as marijuana laws are concerned, the federal government allows legal states to draft their own laws and implement them. A stoner can have regular visits to the cannabis dispensary without any hitch. The federal government intervenes only if large amounts of marijuana are involved. While legal marijuana states permit people to use clinical and/or recreational weed, federal law says a toker cannot purchase and own a gun. A violator faces serious criminal charges with a federal penalty of five-years jail time and a $10,000 fine.
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The Federal Gun Control Act of 1968 and the Federal Omnibus Consolidated Appropriations Act of 1997 make it illegal for a person who fits into any of the following categories to ship, transport, receive or possess firearms or ammunition.
Persons who are unlawful users of or are addicted to narcotics or any other controlled substances, including medical marijuana.
Federal law prohibits medical marijuana users from possessing or buying firearms and ammunition — even if state law allows the drugs use.
Form 4473 of the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) states that anyone attempting to buy a gun from a licensed seller must truthfully answer a series of Yes/No questions, including:
“11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?”
A marijuana user could, in theory, answer “No” to question 11.e., but that respondent would be violating federal law by doing so and it is a crime punishable as a felony under Federal law, and may also violate State and/or local law.

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What if You Already Have a Gun
Your licensed gun isn’t legal if you are a marijuana consumer.
ATF specifies that a marijuana consumer cannot legally own a gun. The federal government states that a user of a controlled substance may not own a gun or ammunition.
In legal marijuana states, federal law for gun ownership applies. Some states contact medicinal marijuana patients to ask them to turn over their licensed firearms. Those who did not might wind up with grave weapon charges when the law catches them. You have to deal with the state for the drug offense while the gun charge is a federal one.
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https://www.legalreader.com/marijuana-laws-and-gun-ownership/

What is a licensed firearm?

I assume some states have licenses. Ohio does not.

I hope I'm never in need of that type of pain relief.

That's absurd. Do you forfeit your right to own firearms if you own or buy alcohol? What about prescription meds?

Pot is a "schedule 1" narcodic like heroin. alcohol and pain meds are not.


"Schedule I drugs are the most dangerous drugs of all the drug schedules with potentially severe psychological or physical dependence. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are: heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote."

I will never give up my guns.Easy choice

Weed will always be the devil to many because that's what their Grandma told them. God put weed on the earth for a purpose. IMO it's fine in it's natural state.
Cell phones are much more dangerous.

Cell phones doesn't kill brain cells

[/quote]Cell phones doesn't kill brain cells [/quote]
They do much more in terms of negativity.

The Ohio law is ridiculous and seems pretty unenforceable after 5 minutes of reading.

While I don't think it's right, I'm against legalizing marijuana to begin with. Not that I'm all that concerned about someone using marijuana. Actually, I think it's less dangerous than alcohol. The reason that I am against legalization is because it won't stop there. Give an inch and they take a mile. It would be that path to legalization of hard drugs. I've said that for years and recently have been proven correct.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/04/election-drugs-oregon-new-jersey/

Correct Finster

Legalize all drugs.

The government should not tell adults what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

In communist countries they kill the druggies.

I was generally opposed to the legalization here in Canada for the reason stated above but not strongly opinionated about it. Unfortunately our liberal federal government did so without doing enough to protect young people or to capitalize on it from a control and tax benefit perspective.

When it affects a multitude of others it can. Your rights do not supersede mine or mine yours.

I haven't got my card just for this reason. In the last 6+ months I smoked a few times but didn't inhale (lol) to help with the pain. It helped my pain and depression. Not sure if it's state or federal law but here they treat using weed and possessing a gun just like drinking and possessing a gun.
In Albuquerque possession (w/o card) of less than 1 oz is treated like a ticket.
The first time I saw my primary doctor he highly recommended me getting my card especially since I don't want our like opioids

Finster apparently wants to ban alcohol, cars and guns. Your argument is one of a liberal.

As usual, you cannot comprehend a simple issue. Good grief, you suck at debating. Where is that even stated? I made my points perfectly clear, no need to build bridges to obscure points.

Reread what you wrote, great debater.