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Re: The metric system [Re: Posco] #7144587
01/19/21 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Posco

Made Napoleon sound taller.
and perhaps fingerless.


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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144603
01/19/21 12:43 PM
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if you use only metric it can be kinda handy conversions kinda suck

in baking with every ingredient in grams toss the bowl on the scale , hit tare and start pouring in , flour , water , sugar you never dirty a measuring spoon or cup just watch the scale and pour also much more accurate , the grind of the sugar or flower doesn't give you different volumes

your spices can be very precise

sure it works in ounces also but grams are simple everything is a whole number.

like when I feed my sour dough starter I retain 113grams of starter , add 113 grams of flour and 113 grams of water mix and cover.


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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144624
01/19/21 01:00 PM
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Honestly... as someone who had to convert it is great. Woodworking, cooking, weights, everything is easier in a system of 10s, 100s or 1000s. A thousand liters of water weighs a ton. One liter weighs a kilo. You buy firewood in cubic yards but I cut my own.

I still use both in my call making but there is nothing wrong with the metric system. No need for cutting wood to 1/64 or 3/64, just add a millimeter.

I'll stand by for the backlash.

Pete

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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144626
01/19/21 01:01 PM
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I remember being told that we'll all be using the metric system soon.

At the time I was working in a tool room.

I thought, "yea, sure". Who's paying for all the new machine tools, measuring instruments, cutting tools and on and on.

Stayed in the mfg business for another 30 or so years. When I left we got most prints in metric. Some with both and some still in English system.
First thing we did was convert to English. I always laughed when the dimensions when converted in to English always came out to nice round English dimensions.
Majority of the tooling made in the USA is still made using English components.
No advantage in changing over to metric.

Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144634
01/19/21 01:08 PM
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In my opinion, infinitely simpler and far less chances of mistakes with metric. I'm with you Swifty, but am assuming I'll get all the blowback as well for voicing my opinion.

Jack


Re: The metric system [Re: swift4me] #7144635
01/19/21 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by swift4me
Honestly... as someone who had to convert it is great. Woodworking, cooking, weights, everything is easier in a system of 10s, 100s or 1000s. A thousand liters of water weighs a ton. One liter weighs a kilo. You buy firewood in cubic yards but I cut my own.

I still use both in my call making but there is nothing wrong with the metric system. No need for cutting wood to 1/64 or 3/64, just add a millimeter.

I'll stand by for the backlash.

Pete


Its easier when all the equipment and tooling is in metric. Buy an old American made machine tool and try repairing it. Your not going to run a M8 bolt into a 5/16 tapped hole.

You have to use the system that the machine is made in. Much harder to find a metric components at our local hardware stores than an English one.

You can use what ever system you want for measuring, when you decide that you want to adjust your cut 3mm and your dials are in thousands of an inch your going to have to convert to English ain't no 2 ways about it.

Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144644
01/19/21 01:14 PM
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Just remember the 6.5 Creedmoor is metric!


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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144647
01/19/21 01:16 PM
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Eventually we will bite the bullet. Would have been over the pain, long ago, if we would have converted. I wouldn't have a shop full of twice the tools and work on equipment with two different systems of measure. Is that hydraulic fitting metric or standard? frown


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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144711
01/19/21 02:20 PM
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It's really fun working on American vehicles from the late 80s-early 90s. Half the stuff is standard half is metric. All the old engine stuff still around from the 60s and 70s is standard, but all the newer stuff is metric. The engine I'm putting in my truck is standard, the transmission is metric, the rear axle is standard. But the metric transmission bolts to the standard engine with standard bolts grin

Re: The metric system [Re: Deerkiller] #7144718
01/19/21 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Deerkiller
Just remember the 6.5 Creedmoor is metric!

Proud to say I don't have even one metric firearm!


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Re: The metric system [Re: Yukon John] #7144753
01/19/21 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Yukon John
Originally Posted by Deerkiller
Just remember the 6.5 Creedmoor is metric!

Proud to say I don't have even one metric firearm!

not even a 7.62x63 , 7.62x51 ,5.56x45 , 6x52 7mm-08 , 7x30 waters , 9mm , 10mm?



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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144966
01/19/21 05:23 PM
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What really sucks is the need to have two identical sets of tools; sockets, wrenches, allen keys...


Eh...wot?

Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144970
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And what's up with that 10mm socket always disappearing? SAE sockets hardly ever do that.


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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144985
01/19/21 05:37 PM
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Staked many DOT projects in metric. The problem was an operator couldnt visualize a cut of .3 meters but he could visualize a foot. I'd give them an engineer/metric stick rule and tell them to turn it over to convert. Poor things.


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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144993
01/19/21 05:45 PM
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As a tool and die maker working at a Ford engine plant i use it ever freaking day. Most of the conversions I do in my head.


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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144997
01/19/21 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Finster
And it should be illegal in this country. It's my God given right to use a obscure, convoluted, archaic system of measurement. I think we should amend the constitution. It's probably even contributing to Covid and global warming!


Smoke a dobbie and relax.


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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7144999
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Ya think the whining is bad on here, shoulda seen the first metric shingle job,, calculator for big crooked lay outs.

Tool salesman like it.

Painted SAE red and others blue. These are mobile, not in a roll box.

Is metric plywood and framing next lol.





Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7145000
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All of this acceptance talk. You guys should be ashamed! 10 of this in 100 of that it's just not right I tell you. Everyone knows there are more numbers than that. That's the great thing about our system, we give all them other numbers a chance to be useful. That "gram" and "Kilo" talk is for communist and drug runners.


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Re: The metric system [Re: Wright Brothers] #7145007
01/19/21 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
Ya think the whining is bad on here, shoulda seen the first metric shingle job,, calculator for big crooked lay outs.

Tool salesman like it.

Painted SAE red and others blue. These are mobile, not in a roll box.

Is metric plywood and framing next lol.


I been working with a pile of 11mm and 12mm OSB the last few years. I think both are 7/16"? confused


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Re: The metric system [Re: Finster] #7145008
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Which is smaller 4/8" or 1/2"? grin


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