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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: 8117 Steve R] #7134980
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Originally Posted by 8117 Steve R
The writing is on the wall on this deal.


Maybe I'm a little dense but can you spell out for me what the writing on the wall says, I don't see anything.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7135019
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The DNR did not show up for the hearing. It doesn’t seem like they are very interested in establishing a wolf season nor are they in any hurry to explain their reason.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: 8117 Steve R] #7135029
01/13/21 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 8117 Steve R
The DNR did not show up for the hearing. It doesn’t seem like they are very interested in establishing a wolf season nor are they in any hurry to explain their reason.


Means it came from above. Look no farther than the governor. I have no doubt he asked his department to defy state statue and delay season until next fall. There is absolutely no reason we couldn't have been prepared to hold a season now when we knew delisting was coming a year ago. The Natural Resource Board questioned the department and all they did was dodge for the last six months. Goal was to delay this as long as possible so legislator would have limited options for recourse. Regardless of your position on wolves, sportsmen should be mad IMO.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7135243
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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: WIMarshRAT] #7135249
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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT

Means it came from above. Look no farther than the governor. I have no doubt he asked his department to defy state statue and delay season until next fall. There is absolutely no reason we couldn't have been prepared to hold a season now when we knew delisting was coming a year ago. The Natural Resource Board questioned the department and all they did was dodge for the last six months. Goal was to delay this as long as possible so legislator would have limited options for recourse. Regardless of your position on wolves, sportsmen should be mad IMO.





Everybody should be mad. It shows the Gov't not doing its duties.

I could see anti's being happy but for a short term only. This will surface again. The problem isn't solved.

Is the general consensus that the Gov. is on the side of the anti's?

That can't be, the D's are the party of science I, or so they say. I'd hate to think that they are on the side of science only when it goes with their agenda. grin

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: Dirty D] #7144707
01/19/21 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty D

Everybody should be mad. It shows the Gov't not doing its duties.

I could see anti's being happy but for a short term only. This will surface again. The problem isn't solved.



It will be interesting to see if the NRB tries to hold the department accountable yet this year. They did a lot of barking at the department all fall so it will be interesting to see if they decide to bite.

I do see a special NRB meeting for this Friday so a guy can hope.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: Trap_Hunt_Fish] #7144710
01/19/21 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Trap_Hunt_Fish
Lets relocate a couple packs to the Wiley Street neighborhood in Madison so the anti's there can live with them.

There are no trappers in WI. that can release a few there?

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7144789
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Let some of their precious pets get killed and eaten by wolves like happened in MN.

When the population of a certain animal increases, they expand their range as is happening in MN with wolves. They are moving farther south.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7144809
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Didn't we have a season when wolves where delisted before? It shouldn't be that difficult to establish a season based on the past.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7144853
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This is how civil disobedience starts. If the Govt. doesnt follow the law, why should we, right? I See alot more wolves getting wasted this year due to SSS.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: Scott__aR] #7144873
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
Didn't we have a season when wolves where delisted before? It shouldn't be that difficult to establish a season based on the past.


That is correct. Not really hard. First you look at our current population.

https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/sites/default/files/topic/WildlifeHabitat/wolfreport2020.pdf

And you can look at how harvest impacted population in the past.

2014
2013
2012

Set a conservative quota for each zone. Divide the total quota by success rate (10%) and that tells you how many folks you need to draw in the lottery to send tags to.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: WIMarshRAT] #7145075
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Originally Posted by WIMarshRAT
Originally Posted by Scott__aR
Didn't we have a season when wolves where delisted before? It shouldn't be that difficult to establish a season based on the past.


That is correct. Not really hard. First you look at our current population.

https://dnr.wisconsin.gov/sites/default/files/topic/WildlifeHabitat/wolfreport2020.pdf

And you can look at how harvest impacted population in the past.

2014
2013
2012

Set a conservative quota for each zone. Divide the total quota by success rate (10%) and that tells you how many folks you need to draw in the lottery to send tags to.



Well I know, I can get my MB wolfers read to go in about 2 hours, if the state can get its act together. Haha!


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7145088
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Suit to stop the delisting has been filed in the Northern District of California. I don't know any details.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7145140
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wolves are dogs, they repopulate quickly, they are capable of taking down any animal, healthy or not

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7145505
01/19/21 09:36 PM
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Looks like another meeting coming Friday morning, with a chance for public input until Thursday.

MADISON, Wis. (AP) - Republican lawmakers are demanding the state Department of Natural Resources implement a wolf hunt immediately.

The DNR’s policy board announced Tuesday it will be holding a special meeting Friday morning to address the demand from Republicans on the Legislature’s sporting heritage committees.

The DNR’s meeting will begin at 8:30 a.m. Anyone can watch the meeting by CLICKING HERE. If the meeting is at capacity and you’re not able to join, it will also be streamed AT THIS WEBSITE.

Although members of the general public won’t be able to attend the meeting in person due to the pandemic, DNR officials say the public is encouraged to participate. However, anyone wishing to submit a written comment on the topic or submit a remote public appearance request must do so by 8 a.m. on Thursday, January 21.

If you’d like to submit a written comment regarding the next steps to establish a Wisconsin wolf hunt in 2021, you can do so by CLICKING HERE.

Anyone wanting to learn how to testify before the Wisconsin Natural Resources Board can find information on that by CLICKING HERE.

The board received a letter from the Republicans on Jan. 15 saying wolves need to be hunted now before the Biden administration places them back on the federal endangered species list.

The Trump administration removed wolves from the list this past fall and the DNR had planned to resume its wolf season this coming November.

Wisconsin law calls for annual hunting and trapping seasons to resume if the wolf lost federal protection.

Link to original with links on how to submit comments Original story with links

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7145678
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Here's the link you can copy & paste to your browser.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/wisconsin-republicans-demand-dnr-resume-wolf-hunt-immediately%3f_amp=true

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7145686
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Here's the link to enter comment on the DNR website.

https://www.research.net/r/NRB_22Jan2021_Wolf

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7145710
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Thanks tlguy

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7146173
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Thanks tlguy. Glad a few folks are following along.

My feedback will probably follow this outline.

We knew delisting was coming for a year and state statue requires a season.
Groups and organizations clamored to get the dnr wolf committee back up and running but dept refused
We know population level and what conservative harvest would be. This drives permits that need to be issued.
We have ability to hold drawing and send out permits quickly.

We have enough season left to still hold a season.

It is time the NRB steps in.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: corky] #7146238
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Originally Posted by corky
Suit to stop the delisting has been filed in the Northern District of California. I don't know any details.


I doubt that will ever stop until federal legislators take up the issue.
Here is an article that I found on the one you mentioned

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