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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7146362
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https://us02web.zoom.us/j/84528478152

Here's the zoom link to the meeting does anybody know what time it is on Friday?


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7146561
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I and 13 family added our comments.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7148713
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I believe it starts at 830. Any one taking the time to testify tomorrow? I was thinking about giving the bossman a shout out, but didn't know if he would appreciate the traffic it might drive;)

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7149889
01/22/21 05:36 PM
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Unfortunately the NRB was not able to pass a motion directing the department to hold a season yet this winter.

Even more disappointing was the WTA testimony. It was brought into the discussion by a board member. Wonder how their membership feels about that decision?





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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7149904
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The WTA testimony was in opposition to the season?


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7149955
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That is correct.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7149979
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Well I suppose if the situation was stable, and we would be guaranteed a season next year I can somewhat see their reasoning. Fur might be breaking down, the issue of burning preference points for a late short season, etc. But it’s a real possibility that they will be back on the list by November. I would have liked them to support a season while we had an opportunity.


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7150120
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I don't understand that argument Steve. They were not going to eliminate your ability to choose preference point. Think the hide is worthless or season too short, then put in for a preference point.

In addition, IMO we shouldn't ever undercut the value a season can have on reducing issues. It's the reason we don't just turn over harvest to the feds.





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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7150121
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I just heard from the WTA, and I was told they did NOT provide any written or verbal testimony at the hearing.

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: 8117 Steve R] #7150124
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Originally Posted by 8117 Steve R
I just heard from the WTA, and I was told they did NOT provide any testimony at the hearing.


This is extremely disappointed that they spin instead of telling you the truth. Notice my original post. They provided written testimony. The public knows because a board member brought it up. Don't take my word for it. Watch the video. Fast forward to 4h 14 min mark. https://dnrmedia.wi.gov/main/Catalo...1721/731c92f70bb84be69b8f69ef1ccbb99c1d/

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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7150127
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Read my edited post


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Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: handitrapper] #7150157
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Wisconsins’s wolf population is in desperate need of management. This is really unfortunate and shows the widnr’s real stance on the situation.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: BvrRetriever] #7150175
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Many times it is best to develop something that is workable and can be changed, modified etc. as an ongoing process. The fact that we tend to want to try to find perfection the first time around many times delays moving forward. Another reason for not doing something with the idea of making needed changes is the lack of trust between all the entities. We don't have to agree or even like each other but we should be able to trust each other when it comes to making significant management decisions on public assets.

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Stall away and get another pass. Ridiculous, no excuse for not being prepared. I hate trophies!

Fur no good....some people need to get out of the house after deer season.

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I believe the “testimony” the lady was talking about was from several years ago when they were deciding dates for a season. I think she was opposed to having a season this year and used that old testimony out of context.


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I am not going to say anything else about the association. Folks can do their own research. I even took the liberty of deleting the last post as I know the boss doesn't like to run any association through the mud.


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The fact remains that setting the season is the dnr’s responsibility. Not the association’s. Now we know where they stand.

Re: Wisconsin Wolves [Re: BvrRetriever] #7166104
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
The fact remains that setting the season is the dnr’s responsibility. Not the association’s. Now we know where they stand.


An annual season is set by state statue when delisted. The department just decided to defy state statue this year and not hold a season.

I guess you could say that holding a season is not the association's responsibility. But so was the starting date and they had no problem lobbying to change that. And it was changed to the date of their choice--the first Saturday in November.

The whole reason it was defined in state statue was because legislators didnt trust the department to hold a season on wolves when they were delisted. Looks like they were right to be concerned. But we already knew this.

After three successful seasons, wolves were put back on the endangered species list by a lawsuit. The current administration didnt even fight it. They sent a two line response to the lawsuit. So all those folks that think we are having a season this fall, better find a way to get this administration to actually fight the lawsuits that are already line up.


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For many this is justified and wanted. The negative aspects could be even further delay with pending law suits and also those against harvesting wolves don't have to spend time or monies watching game managers fight in court with hunting groups and outdoor groups. Hope it works but there may well be consequences with actions that have been taken.

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