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Re: Poacher busted [Re: wy.wolfer] #7148589
01/21/21 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Texas style hunting has come to Colorado. Super wealthy buying up tens of thousands of acres and creating a family hunting compound and keeping the locals off. Putting out food plots, enhanced feeders, and manipulating the gene pool. Never cared for this type of hunting, Au natural is more my to my liking. Hunting in this state is mostly all about $$$$ now.

If this doesnt convince folks that purchasing your own property should be a priority, I dont know what will. Our kids will see the day that only the wealthy will be able to hunt UNLESS you already have your own spread...sad, but true I beleive.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: midlander] #7148594
01/21/21 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Texas style hunting has come to Colorado. Super wealthy buying up tens of thousands of acres and creating a family hunting compound and keeping the locals off. Putting out food plots, enhanced feeders, and manipulating the gene pool. Never cared for this type of hunting, Au natural is more my to my liking. Hunting in this state is mostly all about $$$$ now.

If this doesnt convince folks that purchasing your own property should be a priority, I dont know what will. Our kids will see the day that only the wealthy will be able to hunt UNLESS you already have your own spread...sad, but true I beleive.


And don't let states and feds sell off our public lands. Happy trapping! ScottW

Re: Poacher busted [Re: midlander] #7148609
01/21/21 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Texas style hunting has come to Colorado. Super wealthy buying up tens of thousands of acres and creating a family hunting compound and keeping the locals off. Putting out food plots, enhanced feeders, and manipulating the gene pool. Never cared for this type of hunting, Au natural is more my to my liking. Hunting in this state is mostly all about $$$$ now.

If this doesnt convince folks that purchasing your own property should be a priority, I dont know what will. Our kids will see the day that only the wealthy will be able to hunt UNLESS you already have your own spread...sad, but true I beleive.

Been this way in the South for decades. Nobody here hunts on someone else's land for free. Leasing hunting rights is what I grew up with. I'm 56 now.

The "locals" have not hunted private property free here either. So, they arent being kicked off when a property sells as they were never allowed there to begin with.

You westerners are spoiled by all the public land you have available out there that enables yall to keep it "au natural."


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: forestman3] #7148682
01/21/21 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by forestman3
First if you have to hunt over bait you need a lesson on hunting.JMO Second if I paid to hunt their and then was told not to kill the big one,I would be like what`s the point.I liked the whole deer hunting thing more when I was a kid and we had a blast killing 100 inch deer and everybody hunted on everybodys ground.Hardly evan remember seeing posted signs then.It sure has went down hill I think.

Yeap!!
Or a deer that has his head buried in a pumpkin or rutabaga patch over a bait plot. Lol

Interesting and glad the skipper got hung.

Last edited by snowy; 01/21/21 08:42 PM.

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Re: Poacher busted [Re: wy.wolfer] #7148715
01/21/21 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Texas style hunting has come to Colorado. Super wealthy buying up tens of thousands of acres and creating a family hunting compound and keeping the locals off. Putting out food plots, enhanced feeders, and manipulating the gene pool. Never cared for this type of hunting, Au natural is more my to my liking. Hunting in this state is mostly all about $$$$ now.

Agreed AL
It has came to Montana as well ,,, I had a rancher pose the question of pay to trap in eastern Montana I just laughed said good luck buddy
Red


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: forestman3] #7148719
01/21/21 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by forestman3
First if you have to hunt over bait you need a lesson on hunting.JMO Second if I paid to hunt their and then was told not to kill the big one,I would be like what`s the point.I liked the whole deer hunting thing more when I was a kid and we had a blast killing 100 inch deer and everybody hunted on everybodys ground.Hardly evan remember seeing posted signs then.It sure has went down hill I think.

After your first sentence, nothing else you typed really mattered. As slamming other hunters method of hunting is the biggest reason hunting has went downhill. JMO


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: midlander] #7148725
01/21/21 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Texas style hunting has come to Colorado. Super wealthy buying up tens of thousands of acres and creating a family hunting compound and keeping the locals off. Putting out food plots, enhanced feeders, and manipulating the gene pool. Never cared for this type of hunting, Au natural is more my to my liking. Hunting in this state is mostly all about $$$$ now.

If this doesnt convince folks that purchasing your own property should be a priority, I dont know what will. Our kids will see the day that only the wealthy will be able to hunt UNLESS you already have your own spread...sad, but true I beleive.

The craze for large antlers and stroked ego's has done more damage to hunting traditions than anything else. Michigan is a great example.


your only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7148776
01/21/21 09:10 PM
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Hunters against hunters will be the end to hunting.

Different styles in every region, and each hunter hunts for his own reason. I wouldnít want a dishonest ďSkipĒ in my hunting group. But the horn hunters and meat hunters have to find a balance or understanding. I donít know the answer here - but this argument is really getting attention.

John

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7148797
01/21/21 09:23 PM
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Ego is a enemy of any man or women,,, whatever reason to hunt or trap conversation should in the forefront of your thinking . Killing or harvesting is just a small part and least part of it . Imo
But in this results driven society it's getting more and more attention to bad. Imo.


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7148826
01/21/21 09:41 PM
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Ive never known a "meat hunter" that would shoot a doe that was standing next to a young buck. Cant eat them antlers, eh....bye, bye little buck.

To each his own.


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7148846
01/21/21 09:52 PM
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Iím so glad I have access to tens of millions of acres of blm within an hour drive of my house


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: snowy] #7148852
01/21/21 09:59 PM
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Or the guy that's shoots a deer and doesn't follow up on the shot (wanton waste) wink


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7148907
01/21/21 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Ive never known a "meat hunter" that would shoot a doe that was standing next to a young buck. Cant eat them antlers, eh....bye, bye little buck.

To each his own.


Spike buck every time,,,, a doe makes more deer.
Like killing a spike bull eats way better than a cow unless a yearling.


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7148924
01/21/21 10:57 PM
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Not my cup of tea but if these wealthy land owners are willing to spend millions to provide fencing, feed, stands etc. for those that are willing to pay those kind of funds to shoot semi captive whitetails, it is an opportunity that some can use. When I was a kid we had deer come to the salt block for the cows in our barnyard and often thought what it would be like to sit in the silo room and dust them off. None were of the scale and quality that were on those photos but to me the methodology is similar. The MLB considered asterisks by the names of those who they could prove were using PEDs. Do the trophy hunters need to have a system where by farmed andfenced wildlife is recorded.

Bryce

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01/21/21 10:59 PM
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If he had a problem with the pact, he should have said you can not shoot him if you want but Iím killing it if I see it. Then everything would have been cool.
But supposedly he gave his word, so that was his first problem and it seems it was all down hill from there.


That part of Texas is a different world. They hunt like they do for a reason.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7148971
01/21/21 11:37 PM
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The still picture of the buck is not not all that impressive to me. It has a lot of points, but it lacks spread and the mass isn't there either.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7148980
01/21/21 11:47 PM
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... let the record show that 52 Carl likes his wide and massive lol

... as far as this south tx nonsense goes... I always hoped it wouldnít make it east but it has

.. and to those talking ďdivision ď ... Iíd rather raise beef if Iím going to raise anything... hunting isnít animal husbandry


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: bblwi] #7149193
01/22/21 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Not my cup of tea but if these wealthy land owners are willing to spend millions to provide fencing, feed, stands etc. for those that are willing to pay those kind of funds to shoot semi captive whitetails, it is an opportunity that some can use. When I was a kid we had deer come to the salt block for the cows in our barnyard and often thought what it would be like to sit in the silo room and dust them off. None were of the scale and quality that were on those photos but to me the methodology is similar. The MLB considered asterisks by the names of those who they could prove were using PEDs. Do the trophy hunters need to have a system where by farmed andfenced wildlife is recorded.

Bryce


They already do.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: 52Carl] #7150548
01/23/21 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
The still picture of the buck is not not all that impressive to me. It has a lot of points, but it lacks spread and the mass isn't there either.


It scored 208 so there's that. The point is that the buck would have been world class in two years, when it would have reached its full potential. And by the way mass accounts or an average of 12% of the score and spread almost nothing. If you have a buck that scores 200 with a 18 inch spread, take that buck and give it a 20 inch spread and now it scores 202.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7150563
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I guess the silver lining is: he had to be a main breeder buck in that hierarchy and hopefully passed those genes down to the herd.

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