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New mexico needs alot of help UPDATE!!! #7150017
01/22/21 07:11 PM
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Oppose SB-Oppose SB32!!!!!
Share this link with everyone to watch the committee hearing on Sunday at 9am mountain time. They will run a poll asking for who support and who opposes. It’s a zoom meeting so tell everyone to try the link tomorrow and create a zoom account if they need. Share it far and wide even outside of NM. Just don’t say “doesn’t matter if you’re from Nm”. Just encourage people to join the meeting and vote to oppose when asked. DONT USE THE WEBCAST LINK. That is different and won’t let you vote. The house does things different from the senate. So there is not deadline to register to speak. Simply use the above link I just sent.

PEOPLE MUST HAVE A ZOOM ACCOUNT TO USE IT.

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/886923776...Q49MgyM02E4aWViooPfKOh6h0ZgPNJijJTbuTjeo



We need as much help this year as we can get. Please send an email to each and every representative. This year the lawmakers have banned the public from the roundhouse and the NMTA fears this may mean they feel free to ram through laws like this that could not normally pass.
This bill is very similar to the bills we have seen in the past and will make it illegal to trap ANY public land in NM. It even bans cage traps. The bill is called the "Wildlife Conservation and Public Safety House Energy, Environment and Natural Resources Committee Members:
Matthew McQueen (D) - Chairman - matthew.mcqueen@nmlegis.gov - 505-986-4423
Melanie Stansbury (D)- Vice Chair - melanie.stansbury@nmlegis.gov - 505-750-7079
Christine Chandler (D)- christine.chandler@nmlegis.gov - 505-695-2646
Meredith Dixon (D)- meredith.dixon@nmlegis.gov - 505-401-8339
Joanne Ferrary (D)- joanne.ferrary@nmlegis.gov - 575-382-6425
Rod Montoya (R)- roddmontoya@gmail.com - 505-986-4757
Kristina Ortez (D)- kristina.ortez@nmlegis.gov - 505-986-4254
Debra Sarinana (D)- debbie.sarinana@nmlegis.gov - 505-974-9408
Larry Scott (R)- larry.scott@nmlegis.gov - 575-392-5960
James Strickler (R) - jamesstrickler@msn.com - 505-327-4190
James Townsend (R) - townsend@pvtn.net - 575-703-0153

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Last edited by TravC; 03/13/21 05:03 PM.

There i said it....
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7150459
01/23/21 01:07 AM
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I am hoping for the best for you guys and woman trappers. I love New Mexico

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7150805
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Travis, it might help if you could post a copy of the NM trapping assoc. membership form for those that might want to join to help monetarily.

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7151318
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Banned the public..Banned the Public.. Banned The Public.....They work for you.....just show up....everyone show up dog hunters, trappers, deer hunters...and on and on...just show up..
and E mail .............................................................


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7151939
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Those legislators already know how they will vote. They are doing it now so the public will calm down by the next election. It is pretty obvious public opinion doesnt matter anymore. Elections can just be rigged. NM is the next state to join the California union of communist democrats. I am sending emails but not holding my breath. Any plans to show up anyway? I am willing just dont want to be alone.


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7152006
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The streets to the Round House are blocked and the police check you, welcome to AMERIKA

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7152571
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In order to testify at the sen consevation comitee agains sb 32 please do the following

We need expert whitnesses

SCONC@nmlegis.gov with your Name, Entity Representing, Bill #, For or Against, and an email address by Monday, January 25, 3:00 p.m. You will be contacted by the Zoom Operator with virtual meeting instructions.


There i said it....
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7153376
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Just ordered one of the NM Trappers Association ballcap hats. Not much but a little to help.

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7153536
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Renewed membership as a family membership this yr.

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7155522
01/26/21 12:24 PM
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The comitee that will hear the trapping bill sb 32 is in session we are asking as many people as possible to http://sg001-harmony.sliq.net/00293/Harmony/en/PowerBrowser/PowerBrowserV2/20210126/-1/66954


There i said it....
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7156282
01/26/21 09:34 PM
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Anything happen today?


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7156999
01/27/21 09:04 AM
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Did it get out of committee?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7157027
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They ran out of time, senate resumes Thursday keep commenting!!

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7157345
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Please hamner these legislators on this comitee

lstefanics@msn.com; a.sedillolopez@nmlegis.gov;
david.rsi@hotmail.com;
Joseph@cervanteslawnm.com;
carrie.hamblen@nmlegis.gov;
steven.neville@nmlegis.gov;
harold.popejr@nmlegis.gov;
gregg.schmedes@nmlegis.gov;
bill.soules@nmlegis.gov


There i said it....
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7159176
01/28/21 05:09 PM
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Help new mexico the morons who created that bill listen to those little siisys called peta and they dont even understand the word conservation new mexico needs trappers there are tons of predators there


"You reap what you sow"
Im 15 and still the best trapper in glenwhite
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: Ethan1234] #7159183
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Help all new mexico if they start banning trappingin other states itll make it
Easier to ban it in all of the us

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7159499
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I expressed my opinion to everyone on the committee!!!


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7159540
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so what happened today? is tabled again?


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7159637
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Tabled again! First one up Tuesday----keep emailing please!

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7159881
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Here a update the bill has not been heard in comitee yet the more time it takes to be heard the less time it has
Its up first on tuesday as of right now. We really need the help of this forums members to email and call the senators nonstop please be curtious include facts etc really drive home the point that science is on our side
We need to realy hammer all if the senators but the comitee members rigt now can make the vote


If you would like to testify against the bill i encourage you to do its on the web on zoom you need to mailto:SCONC@nmlegis.gov They should send a link so you can testify We would really appreciate youre time be courtious snd Anyone that can attend this please do. The anti trapping bill will be heard on Tuesday. I guarantee the antis are going to try to fill this up quick. If you haven’t made calls or sent emails yet, I would suggest doing it before Tuesday

Chance

BILL LOCATION – Senate Conservation Committee (1/26/21 @9:00am)

*Public participation in any meeting is at the call of the chair. For public participation in this meeting send an email to SCONC@nmlegis.gov with your Name, Entity Representing, Bill #, For or Against, and an email address by Monday, January 25, 3:00 p.m. You will be contacted by the Zoom Operator with virtual meeting instructions.


Thank you guys for youre help we need it

Please email these legislators to oppose the Conservation Committee members are:

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We need lots of emails and phone calls now Tuesday is the lstefanics@msn.com
a.sedillolopez@nmlegis.gov
david.rsi@hotmail.com
Joseph@cervanteslawnm.com
carrie.hamblen@nmlegis.gov
steven.neville@nmlegis.gov
harold.popejr@nmlegis.gov
gregg.schmedes@nmlegis.gov
bill.soules@nmlegis.gov

Last edited by TravC; 01/29/21 12:28 AM.

There i said it....
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7166270
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They want to ban trapping because your not spending your money on dope and your not staying home the government wants full and total control of the american population i beleive the government makes drugs and gives it to distributers


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7166333
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I see the conservation committee adjourned. What happened?


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7166620
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Here is a copy of what I emailed to everyone on the list, I received a message one of them has changed his email, and already received a different email from another saying thankyou. Feel free to copy and paste this to send them, hope it is helpful. Good luck guys!




I am writing you to please oppose Bill SB-32 The ban of trapping rights, Trapping is a tool that is needed in this ERA, it is necessary tool to help maintain the balance of nature. Trappers are a free State Wildlife Nuisance control that save the States across The United States a great deal of money. Without Trapping over population will occur, disease such as Mange, Rabies,etc. So please Oppse Bill SB-32

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7166670
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did it get out of committee?


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7166735
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Sadly it passed to the next comiteewhen i get hole ill post more


There i said it....
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7167730
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NEW MEXICO
Trapping ban clears first legislative hurdle
Published: Wednesday, February 3, 2021
Legislation to prohibit traps, snares and wildlife poisons from being used on public lands across New Mexico cleared its first legislative hurdle yesterday.

Environmentalists and animal advocacy groups testified on behalf of the measure during a Senate committee meeting yesterday, saying New Mexico needs to join neighboring states and ban what they described as a cruel and outdated practice.

Rural residents and wildlife conservation officers said trapping remains an important tool for managing wildlife and protecting livestock. They pointed to changes adopted last year by the state Game Commission after a lengthy public process, saying lawmakers should give the trapping rules a chance to work before imposing a sweeping ban.

Under the rules, trappers have to complete an education course, and restrictions were imposed on setting traps and snares around designated trailheads and on select tracts of public lands in New Mexico.

Designed largely to reduce the hazard of traps to hikers and their dogs, the prohibitions include mountainous areas east of Albuquerque, along with swaths of national forest along highways leading to ski areas near Santa Fe and Taos. In the southern part of the state, it includes the eastern portion of the Organ Mountain-Desert Peaks National Monument.

"The concerns that have been expressed over the years by the Legislature and by members of the urban public have actually already been resolved," said Kerrie Cox Romero with the New Mexico Council of Outfitters and Guides. "This bill provides no recognition of that effort."

Cox Romero said much of the land that would be affected by the bill is remote and rarely sees human activity other than trappers.

Supporters of the legislation argued that several pet dogs have been injured despite last year's rule changes and that more needs to be done to ensure public safety given New Mexico's push to increase outdoor recreation.

Kevin Bixby, executive director of the Southwest Environmental Center in Las Cruces, said he was hiking over the weekend and saw many others doing the same.

"Traps on public lands pose a threat to our members and all public land users," he told lawmakers. "They're like land mines basically waiting to harm whatever unfortunate creature happens to step on them — whether it's a wild animal or pet dog or a horse carrying a rider or, God forbid, a human being."

Supporters also raised concerns about traps hampering efforts in southwestern New Mexico to restore the endangered Mexican gray wolf.

Jessica Johnson, chief government affairs officer for Animal Protection Voters, said there was an effort to consider the concerns of ranchers and sportsmen when drafting the legislation, and exceptions were included for private and tribal land. The bill also would allow federal and state wildlife managers to use nonlethal traps to deal with problem predators.

Violating provisions of the proposed trapping ban would amount to a misdemeanor.

The measure must be considered by another committee before reaching the full Senate for a vote. — Susan Montoya Bryan, Associated Press

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7168538
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http://chng.it/SnJZkq45v7
I hope the link came through. Please sign and send to as many folks as you can. We need your help. Thanks

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7171655
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Here's a link from the sportsman's alliance with a petition to sign in opposition to the bill.
It's simple and easy if you will help


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: dustytinner] #7172303
02/07/21 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dustytinner
http://chng.it/Lyq8BF9mNL
Here's a link from the sportsman's alliance with a petition to sign in opposition to the bill.
It's simple and easy if you will help

It's same petition as above. Both links go to same petition.


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7174197
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Man i hope this law dont pass


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7182102
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As it stands it does not have a date in senate jusiciary yet if it moves ill post

Please continue circulateing the petition calling and emailing


There i said it....
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7182416
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thanks for the update


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7190944
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Just saw a commercial for Roxys Law. They're pulling out all the stops now.

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When they bringing this up again?


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: GROUSEWIT] #7197051
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Hopefuly it doesnt get heard fior a while the clocks ticking thats a good thing

If it gets scheduled to be heard in judiciary illl post immedietly


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These liberals are out of control.

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How are new mexicans supposed to trust the new mexico legislative process when bills that affect peoples livelyhoods way of life and science based wildlife managemet are scheduled in comitee hearings with less then 24 hours of notice to the public?
a hour and a half before the deadline to register for public comment?
This throws transparency and trust between state legislators and the public out the window.
According to page 21 of the legislative handbook under senate rules
comitee meetings must be posted 24 hours
Before they are heard
Sb32 was posted at 3:23 pm march 4th and is first on the agenda in senate judiciary at 135 pm march 5th

How is this acceptable?

Pleasecontact the commitee members and ask why is the chair Joseph cervantes breaking the rules?

Joseph Cervantes - (D)

hearing in senate Judiciary Committee tomorrow Comitee starts at 1:35 pm March 5 on SB32 trapping bill please call and email Senate Judiciary Committee
SJC@nmlegis.gov
individual members e-mails:
joseph.cervantes@nmlegis.gov
oneillsd13@billoneillfornm.com
cliff.pirtle@nmlegis.gov
katy.duhigg@nmlegis.gov
daniel.ivey-soto@nmlegis.gov
linda.lopez@nmlegis.gov
mark.moores@nmlegis.gov
mimi.stewart@nmlegis.gov


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7205844
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What's the scoop?


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7207925
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It passed judiciary now it heads to the senate floor


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7210735
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The bill is scheduled on the senate floor it could be heard tonight we need help bad please call and email and oppose sb 32 Click the link fir contact info
https://www.nmlegis.gov/Members/Leg...fdfhP_I6LPcyF_FgxYuLqndCdfJSV1E3dAWu9rLE


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help updated [Re: TravC] #7210738
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Oppose SB32!!!!!
Share this link with everyone to watch the committee hearing on Sunday at 9am. They will run a poll asking for who support and who opposes. It’s a zoom meeting so tell everyone to try the link tomorrow and create a zoom account if they need. Share it far and wide even outside of NM. Just don’t say “doesn’t matter if you’re from Nm”. Just encourage people to join the meeting and vote to oppose when asked. DONT USE THE WEBCAST LINK. That is different and won’t let you vote. The house does things different from the senate. So there is not deadline to register to speak. Simply use the above link I just sent.

PEOPLE MUST HAVE A ZOOM ACCOUNT TO USE https://us02web.zoom.us/j/886923776...DPw5Y5fDuodye_XtCpPTWO-KKO1zPjPcnuW02lq0







House Energy, Environment and Natural Resources Committee Members:
Matthew McQueen (D) - Chairman - matthew.mcqueen@nmlegis.gov - 505-986-4423
Melanie Stansbury (D)- Vice Chair - melanie.stansbury@nmlegis.gov - 505-750-7079
Christine Chandler (D)- christine.chandler@nmlegis.gov - 505-695-2646
Meredith Dixon (D)- meredith.dixon@nmlegis.gov - 505-401-8339
Joanne Ferrary (D)- joanne.ferrary@nmlegis.gov - 575-382-6425
Rod Montoya (R)- roddmontoya@gmail.com - 505-986-4757
Kristina Ortez (D)- kristina.ortez@nmlegis.gov - 505-986-4254
Debra Sarinana (D)- debbie.sarinana@nmlegis.gov - 505-974-9408
Larry Scott (R)- larry.scott@nmlegis.gov - 575-392-5960
James Strickler (R) - jamesstrickler@msn.com - 505-327-4190
James Townsend (R) - townsend@pvtn.net - 575-703-0153

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7211114
03/10/21 11:14 AM
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SB 32 passed the New Mexico Senate by a 23-16 vote last night. Now in the House. Another note for those following the Secretary of the Interior nomination. One of Senate Bill 32's sponsors here in New Mexico is a field representative for Ms. Haaland.

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7211316
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Im ready to send in more comments how do I reach the house?


Democratic Sens. Roberto “Bobby” Gonzales of Ranchos de Taos and Brenda McKenna of Corrales said the ban would protect dogs and other pets from strangulation or catastrophic injuries.

At least nine dogs have been caught in privately set traps or snares on public land in New Mexico this trapping season, according to Animal Protection Voters.

“Imagine trying to free a pet or yourself under these highly stressful and painful circumstances,” McKenna said.


So would a leash law protect dogs. How many dogs got hit by cars? More than 9 l would guess! Good grief there's cactus out there a dog could step on one and get spines ; way worse than a brief encounter with a trap!

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you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7213404
03/12/21 12:35 PM
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As sportsmen this quote should be taken to heart.
"
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;"

War is upon us it is a diffrent war its a war of words of politics of useing maninipulation to deceive people into believing they are "eco warriors" wildlife management has gone political.we need to fight. Animal rights groups are makeing millions and useing it to influence polititions this is the new fight.

We cant stand on the sidelines anymore
We have to fight to be VOCAL . Use youre pen. Use youre keyboard use youre smart phone and be as vocal as the animal rights groups.

Please call email and oppose sb 32

Representative Matthew McQueen - (D)
(505) 986-4423
Representative Melanie A. Stansbury - (D)
(505) 986-4432
Representative Christine Chandler - (D)
(505) 986-4242
Representative Meredith A. Dixon - (D)
(505) 986-4210
Representative Joanne J. Ferrary - (D)
(505) 986-4438
Representative Rod Montoya - (R) - Minority Whip
(505) 986-4757
Representative Kristina Ortez - (D)
(505) 986-4254
Representative Debra M. Sariñana - (D)
(505) 986-4438
Representative Larry R. Scott - (R)
(505) 986-4450
Representative James R.J. Strickler - (R)
(505) 986-4220
Representative James G. Townsend - (R)
(505) 986-4758


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7213532
03/12/21 03:44 PM
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Just finished emailing all of them.

NMTA claims the hearing for this is 9am tomorrow!!! Do they work on Saturdays??


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7214017
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The list that has the phone numbers where are there email address

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7214053
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are asking everyone who can to help new mexico by attending the comitee meeting online
It is sunday morning at 9 am you will need to click the link and create a zoom Account https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88692377623


When asked please oppose sb32 We need to pack the meeting on zoom


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7214099
03/13/21 02:09 AM
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Time to try for more amendments??


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: ChiefT] #7214195
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Originally Posted by ChiefT
The list that has the phone numbers where are there email address

Got same list with phone #'s and emails from NMTA!

If u want it give me ur email.


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7214544
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Now- -we need to ban trapping in the u.s.a
10 years from now-- help the predator populations are so high you cant step outside without your kid disappearing


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Im 15 and still the best trapper in glenwhite
Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7214589
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House Energy, Environment and Natural Resources Committee Members:
Matthew McQueen (D) - Chairman - matthew.mcqueen@nmlegis.gov - 505-986-4423
Melanie Stansbury (D)- Vice Chair - melanie.stansbury@nmlegis.gov - 505-750-7079
Christine Chandler (D)- christine.chandler@nmlegis.gov - 505-695-2646
Meredith Dixon (D)- meredith.dixon@nmlegis.gov - 505-401-8339
Joanne Ferrary (D)- joanne.ferrary@nmlegis.gov - 575-382-6425
Rod Montoya (R)- roddmontoya@gmail.com - 505-986-4757
Kristina Ortez (D)- kristina.ortez@nmlegis.gov - 505-986-4254
Debra Sarinana (D)- debbie.sarinana@nmlegis.gov - 505-974-9408
Larry Scott (R)- larry.scott@nmlegis.gov - 575-392-5960
James Strickler (R) - jamesstrickler@msn.com - 505-327-4190
James Townsend (R) - townsend@pvtn.net - 575-703-0153

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7216469
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Passed house committee...going to house floor for vote.

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220099
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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220173
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Whoever the guy speaking now is, seems on our side.....


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: yotetrapper30] #7220182
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Whoever the guy speaking now is, seems on our side.....



Ok, never mind


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220183
03/18/21 08:28 PM
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An amendment to surrender traps for a tax credit mad

The sponsor can't figure out how to value traps because he is "not qualified" to place a value

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: yotetrapper30] #7220193
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Whoever the guy speaking now is, seems on our side.....



Ok, never mind

He says he hope it doesn't pass but....

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220242
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Boy the way they are hammering away I think you're going to have a rough go.


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: WadeRyan] #7220261
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Originally Posted by WadeRyan
Boy the way they are hammering away I think you're going to have a rough go.


Look up their house majority leader, will tell you right off this will not go well for them. frown

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220283
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I'm liking this native speaker. He has brought up great points and is voting against it

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: adam m] #7220288
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Originally Posted by adam m
I'm liking this native speaker. He has brought up great points and is voting against it


X2

So far, 3 of 4 I have watched have been opposed.


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220295
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Native speaker will be key .

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220300
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This bald guy is something .Scientific trapping for wolves is ok ,to be weighed ect then released,but yet they make it sound horrible for pets to be caught ..Guy don’t even know what a conni is ..

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220303
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I agree.
He(the Native speaker) dropped mic on them.

This current speaker just cornered the creator of the bill.

Body grips would they be illegal? Sponsor, yes. Speaker, what's the most common trap to trap beaver which cause lots of damage? Sponsor, no idea. Speaker body grip traps.

Hahaha

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220313
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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220314
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He dropped the Mic

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220373
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The last speaker was driving me nuts.... constantly saying Mr Speaker gentlemen. He must have said that about 500 times

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220375
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There's a guy speaking that claims to be a hunter that supports this bill. Unbelievable. What a bunch of garbage.

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220376
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I’ll be dreaming about that I’ve heard it so much

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Seen that smoky

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: Smoky Hill] #7220388
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Originally Posted by Smoky Hill
There's a guy speaking that claims to be a hunter that supports this bill. Unbelievable. What a bunch of garbage.

Maybe he should've started trapping or at the least did the trappers ed course.
If anything, trapping has helped me become a better hunter.

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220425
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Looks like it passed


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Well chit

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220428
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What? Votes came in after time right out and passed 34-33

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34-33. 1 vote loss frown


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As time ran out votes were 32-32 then a minute later was changed 34-33

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Our hope now lies the governor doesn't sign it in time.

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: adam m] #7220457
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Originally Posted by adam m
Our hope now lies the governor doesn't sign it in time.



What are the chances of that after such a close vote? What kind of guy is he? Party?



Originally Posted by adam m
As time ran out votes were 32-32 then a minute later was changed 34-33



That's what I saw too Adam! It must be accepted to take an oral vote request from those abstaining after the vote has timed out?! Because that's what just happened.

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: 4 Fur] #7220474
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Originally Posted by 4 Fur
[quote=adam m]Our hope now lies the governor doesn't sign it in time.



What are the chances of that after such a close vote? What kind of guy is he? Party?





Never mind. frown


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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: 4 Fur] #7220476
03/18/21 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 4 Fur
Originally Posted by 4 Fur
[quote=adam m]Our hope now lies the governor doesn't sign it in time.



What are the chances of that after such a close vote? What kind of guy is he? Party?





Never mind. frown

She is an anti all the way around, America, 2nd, Trump, open borders, huge supporter of Biden and his policies, she's been caught in many scandals, she's now begging Biden not to cancel fossil fuels because it's most of the state's revenue.

Also to be noted.... a's of yesterday there was 150 bills sitting on a legislature's desk for final documentation ot something before going to the gov. I think she has until Saturday to sign/ veto everything

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Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220762
03/19/21 09:37 AM
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Thank to everyone who called and wrote in.

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220769
03/19/21 09:44 AM
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Is there any hope that the governor won't sign it?

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220816
03/19/21 10:33 AM
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Some but doubtful. She won't gain any votes by signing it but she will lose votes. But she loves her some virtue signaling.

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7220991
03/19/21 02:25 PM
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The bill not yet law, we still have a voice.
https://www.governor.state.nm.us/contact-the-governor/
The anti groups always threaten NM tourism when they push legislation. If you're a non resident let them known about all the vacations you will no longer be taking here. If you are a New Mexico resident tell the govenor how many votes she will lose if she signs the bill to law.

Re: New mexico needs alot of help [Re: TravC] #7221005
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Sent. I told her as long as SB 32 stands that I will take my hunt of a lifetime to another state that follows the science of animal management. That I will not pay into their draw system for tags, and will not spend my money on guides, local attractions, or amenities.

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