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Re: Poacher busted [Re: Snowpa] #7153578
01/25/21 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
I will give you something to chew on , Most and I repeat most trophy bucks have something illegal attached to their taking ,You say what you want but its a fact!

Not even close.Most jealous people say this.


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153604
01/25/21 11:00 AM
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Chew on this. Most trophy bucks die of old age. grin

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153611
01/25/21 11:09 AM
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I despise hunting so much, I get paid to do it. Only way I'll do it. I can't wait to get done, so I can sleep in a warm dry house without bugs again.

Interestingly, i have had clients despise hunting so much, they quit.

One despised it on the first hill. Luckily I un-despised that one and he shot a 21 year old brown bear a few easy miles later. smile


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Who is John Galt?
Re: Poacher busted [Re: Snowpa] #7153612
01/25/21 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
I will give you something to chew on , Most and I repeat most trophy bucks have something illegal attached to their taking ,You say what you want but its a fact!


Nonsense.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153633
01/25/21 11:37 AM
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I will give you something to chew on , Most and I repeat most trophy bucks have something illegal attached to their taking ,You say what you want but its a fact!


I wouldn't agree with most but I bet there is a lot of them...I know of a number of questionable ones.As far as baiting it should not be allowed.Maybe to reduce the doe population or to take one to eat. But there is no such thing as a TROPHY buck taken over bait!!! What a terrible way for a nice buck to be killed or shot---not hunted!!

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153656
01/25/21 12:04 PM
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And those are world class deer. Probably should take a look at the B&C books, that will give you an idea of what's out there. I don't know if Milo Hanson's buck is still #1 but it didn't net much beyond what you're talking at the 208 inch mark.
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I am very familiar with the B&C books believe me. Milo's buck is the reigning typical. This is a nontypical.



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Bernie just looking at pics it looks like a 16 point typical. BUT I know nothing on how the deer was scored. If the 208 was scored as typical it may have netted upper 180's but still world class at 4 yrs of age.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153661
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First off I'm not slamming anyone, but I would not call setting in a shack watching a bait pile hunting. It seems like shooting to me. Kind of reminds me of the time I exchanged words here with some guys the rode around in argos and shot game from them. To me that is not hunting. In 1971 I learned a lot about hunting. After lots of years walking around in the woods and shooting deer (hunting). I went to CO for a deer hunt. IMO, for the past fifty years if you have the money to spend you can kill whatever you want. BTW, i guide bear shooters in Maine, they pay their money and set it a tree and shoot a bear when it comes to the bait. Shooting not hunting in my book.

What they do in texas is no different than sitting over a bean field or corn field. You got to realize in that part of the country there are no way to grow the crops that you guys are hunting over. So if one of your buddies has a food plot it's ok to hunt over it. ?
If you really want to get technical about it anyone sitting in a tree stand or blind isn't hunting they are watching .......

Re: Poacher busted [Re: Snowpa] #7153666
01/25/21 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
I will give you something to chew on , Most and I repeat most trophy bucks have something illegal attached to their taking ,You say what you want but its a fact!



Words from a jealous guy that has yet to kill a trophy deer I bet! You sound like one of those guys that say"If I can't kill a 180 in deer than by George no one can legally"

Re: Poacher busted [Re: gman] #7153672
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Originally Posted by gman
I will give you something to chew on , Most and I repeat most trophy bucks have something illegal attached to their taking ,You say what you want but its a fact!


I wouldn't agree with most but I bet there is a lot of them...I know of a number of questionable ones.As far as baiting it should not be allowed.Maybe to reduce the doe population or to take one to eat. But there is no such thing as a TROPHY buck taken over bait!!! What a terrible way for a nice buck to be killed or shot---not hunted!!



Problem with that statement is who knows if it was shot over bait? Just because Dudley do right narrated the story on how they hunt doesn't mean it happened . Heck guy could have spot lighted it. Only he and God knows. He should have tagged it and been done . Man up for what he did . He succomed to temptation. No different than a man cheating on his wife. Hot little neighbor lies at in the sun naked . He keeps seeing her and one day she asks him over and whoops ! He pulls the trigger.... Marriage is an agreement just like hunting lease !!! LOL

Re: Poacher busted [Re: Snowpa] #7153698
01/25/21 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Snowpa
I will give you something to chew on , Most and I repeat most trophy bucks have something illegal attached to their taking ,You say what you want but its a fact!

I don't know about most, but a heck of a lot of them are. I really don't care about a fella shooting over bait or a crop of beans or corn. The guys that are shooting from the road, killing a deer 3 days before season, behind a spotlight, or killing deer with a rifle and claiming bow shots are the ones I consider poachers, and there are a heck of a lot of trophy deer taken each year in such ways. The shame of the matter is most are not proven as LE have burden of proof. I like the fact they have to prove guilt, but it sure sucks when bubba is sipping a beer telling his buddies the true story and you know the law couldn't do a darn thing about it.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: wy.wolfer] #7153761
01/25/21 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Texas style hunting has come to Colorado. Super wealthy buying up tens of thousands of acres and creating a family hunting compound and keeping the locals off. Putting out food plots, enhanced feeders, and manipulating the gene pool. Never cared for this type of hunting, Au natural is more my to my liking. Hunting in this state is mostly all about $$$$ now.


Their money, their land... But if I'm going to all the trouble of fences, feeders, food plots, mineral licks, selective breeding, etc... I'll just buy cattle.

Mike


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Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153790
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Think they do . Deer is just a by product of the land.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153795
01/25/21 02:20 PM
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The most important part is to get the deer dead by any legal means. Dead deer don't get hit by cars. Long legged rats.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: gman] #7153809
01/25/21 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gman
I will give you something to chew on , Most and I repeat most trophy bucks have something illegal attached to their taking ,You say what you want but its a fact!


I wouldn't agree with most but I bet there is a lot of them...I know of a number of questionable ones.As far as baiting it should not be allowed.Maybe to reduce the doe population or to take one to eat. But there is no such thing as a TROPHY buck taken over bait!!! What a terrible way for a nice buck to be killed or shot---not hunted!!


Well don't ever move to south Texas because you're done deer hunting. It's the only way to kill deer.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: jbyrd63] #7153811
01/25/21 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Originally Posted by Snowpa
I will give you something to chew on , Most and I repeat most trophy bucks have something illegal attached to their taking ,You say what you want but its a fact!



Words from a jealous guy that has yet to kill a trophy deer I bet! You sound like one of those guys that say"If I can't kill a 180 in deer than by George no one can legally"


I have directed ore than 250 fishing tournament and we caught people cheating a couple times out of the thousands of anglers who fished these events. Both times we caught someone cheating, they said everyone else was cheating too. Same goes for people who think most big deer are poached. They don't have the skills, the drive and the guts to get really good at deer hunting so they just think the guys who do are cheating in some way.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153820
01/25/21 02:43 PM
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I once killeda mega buck. The stories that floated around were hilarious.

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153937
01/25/21 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
Same goes for people who think most big deer are poached. They don't have the skills, the drive and the guts to get really good at deer hunting so they just think the guys who do are cheating in some way.


How much skill, drive and guts does it take to sit in a shooting shack and watch a bait pile?


Eh...wot?

Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153946
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There's skill involved! Patience, and the ability to shoot 30 yards without spilling your cocktail. smile

If you think about, it is more like fishing. It is like setting the hook without spilling your beer.

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Re: Poacher busted [Re: BernieB.] #7153951
01/25/21 05:17 PM
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This whole thread strikes me as a *Booking Agent's* attempt
at promoting South Texas Trophy deer hunting gone awry.

(*Booking agent*) The lowest form of life
in the Hunting & Fishing ecosystem.

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Re: Poacher busted [Re: walleyed] #7153957
01/25/21 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
This whole thread strikes me as a *Booking Agent's* attempt
at promoting South Texas Trophy deer hunting gone awry.

(*Booking agent*) The lowest form of life
in the Hunting & Fishing ecosystem.

w


There are no booking agents involved in this type of hunting.

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