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Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7157674
01/27/21 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Several different programs listed under the ag assistance program including product subsidies, disaster payments, and conservation payments.
In 25 years, approx 1/3 of Ga farmers received payments. Nearly 10 billion $$.


It is the gubernment "fixin" a problem they created. While anyone producing a commodity should have access to the open market, embargos, tarifs (pre- Trump), and political whims shut down some of the best markets for any of us to export those goods.

This sword cuts both ways- maybe if we could sell to anybody countries like Australia would not have ramped up beef production (for McDonalds) and Argentina would have stayed out of row crops. These things an a lot others have taken a big toll on grain, meat, and fur prices).

Russia prolly wont make near as many AK47s since we cannot import them dropping the price per unit and upping supply that make
them even more plentiful for the cartels like the one that killed Kiki Cameron or the Border Patrol agents shot buy guns provided by Obama and Holder.

Seeing a pattern yet?


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Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157676
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Farmers are people just like everyone. As a tax payer im not a fan of government welfare. And before anyone starts preaching to me ill say I've been involved in agriculture my entire life.

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7157680
01/27/21 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Nate,
Dont look up how much each US farmer gets annually in government subsidies.

...hint: search agricultural subsidies....

Each farmer and how much he/she received is listed by state...county..

Here ya go:
https://farm.ewg.org/

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Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: Michigander] #7157681
01/27/21 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Don't complain with your mouth full !!!!!


I raise my own,so thanks but know thanks.
Originally Posted by Michigander
I wish our farmers were lazier. With these mild winters they are waging war on anything made of wood. Grown up fencerows, wooded ditches, woodlots and old barns are all being wiped out. Have to keep the grassy ditch banks mowed like a golf course too.


Tax write off. And big equipment know manual labor.

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157690
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If you feel it is easy and not time consuming there are many dairy farmers around here with a family milking 100-250 cows and running 300 to 700 acres that would let you do the physical work while they sat in their pickup and watched you.

Bryce

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157696
01/27/21 06:39 PM
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I said in my first post not sl farmer's dairy and beef farmer's put in there share of manual labor.

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Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157710
01/27/21 06:51 PM
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I agree that this country couldnt survive without food grown by our farmers but goodness some farmers get propped up by the government........to the tune of millions of dollars. And it just isnt the big farmers.

No need for any of those farmers to complain about welfare and other forms of government assistance to others.

That would be the kettle calling the pot black!!!!!


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Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157713
01/27/21 06:52 PM
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I raise my own,so thanks but know thanks.
So you never purchase any food?? You raise your own. sure

And you hunt public ground

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157714
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Originally Posted by nate
Yeah cause they never do,it unless they can set thier -on there tractor or new pickup. At least around here and it may not be all of them but there's A bunch

Fightin' words mister. You wouldn't want a day in our shoes.


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Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157751
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You all gripping about what the farmers get from the government, but I bet you cashed you stimulus check didn't you.

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: Turtledale] #7157754
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Originally Posted by nate
Yeah cause they never do,it unless they can set thier -on there tractor or new pickup. At least around here and it may not be all of them but there's A bunch

Fightin' words mister. You wouldn't want a day in our shoes.

Couldn't put in 1 days work in your shoes


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Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157757
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What size shoes y’all wear? For 2 million I could make them fit or go barefoot.

And I’d bet they got the same stimulus check I got.

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157760
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And for the record...I enjoy eating and the clothes I wear. I just now understand how they live the extravagant lifestyles they live. Not knocking them, I’d take the money too if I could figure out a way to get it.

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157768
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I’d love to see subsidies go away for a while, just to see the reaction of the idiots that complain about them. If you don’t understand how they work, probably best to keep your mouth shut. Subsidies exist because most people couldn’t afford groceries without them.

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: Wanna Be] #7157791
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
And for the record...I enjoy eating and the clothes I wear. I just now understand how they live the extravagant lifestyles they live. Not knocking them, I’d take the money too if I could figure out a way to get it.


Do you know for a fact that those farmers get millions in subsidies? And do you know for a fact that farming is their only source of income?

You couldn’t afford a pound of ground beef without the subsidies the hay farmers get. Farmers work their tails off, and pay for everything themselves. You couldn’t even imagine the insurance premiums a farmer has to carry for a year, let alone the equipment, diesel, seed, water, labor, fences, I could go on for pages on expenses farmers have. I don’t know a single farmer who drives a pickup less than two years old, very few who have a full fleet of brand new tractors. The ones who do are corporate farms. Beside that, as hard as they work, they ought to be able to live comfortable.


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Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157793
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You can come help me this summer, when it’s 112. I have a few miles of fence line to clean!

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157797
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There are several types of farmers, likely everyone on this post is correct in their opinion of the ones they know. I know some that work like dogs year around and others that plant crops for a month, harvest them for a couple weeks, and spend the summer in the casinos and winters somewhere down south.

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: nate] #7157805
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It costs around $500 an acre to produce alfalfa hay. An acre will produce on average 8 tons per year, current price is 200 per ton. So a farmer net profits 1,100 per acre. Now that’s just covering what it cost to plant, water, harvest and stack the alfalfa. Add to that the cost of the equipment to do it, which will cost in excess of $500,000, and the upkeep and maintenance on those machines. Now add to that the price of an acre of tillable land with water, minimum $15,000 per acre. Also the cost of insurance you have to pay for. Now imagine that a hailstorm comes through and wrecks your crop, or a dry year reduces your 8 ton per acre to 4, and your insurance will only partly cover the difference.

Now imagine some yahoo on the internet who works half as many hours as you do complaining about greedy farmers getting crop subsidies.


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Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: ~ADC~] #7157806
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Nailed it ADC! That is what I see too. The guys that have the party lifestyle attract a lot of attention while the guy who probably doesn’t have Daddy’s money struggles

Re: Farmers work is never done! [Re: M.Magis] #7157810
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
I’d love to see subsidies go away for a while, just to see the reaction of the idiots that complain about them. If you don’t understand how they work, probably best to keep your mouth shut. Subsidies exist because most people couldn’t afford groceries without them.

Maybe you should take a look at the website and see for yourself. Look up a farmer in your area. See for yourself how much groceries you could buy for several 100 grand a year.


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