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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162300
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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162303
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They only place I’ve had to hunt these last few years have been fields and fence rows. I got a custom choke and shoot 3.5 hevi 13’s in a 6 shot. It will kill one at 70 yards. 62 yards was my farthest. At 30 yards the pattern is the size of a baseball. You have to shoot it like a rifle or you’ll miss. I’ve been hunting a new property the last couple of years so I went back to the Indian Creek and longboard. My boy killed his first turkey during the 2020 season with a Savage .410 and tss #9’s at 27 yards. He is only seven.

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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162306
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It's hunting not sniping

Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: frank1969] #7162374
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Originally Posted by frank1969
It's hunting not sniping

When he hangs up at that distance and that’s the only choice you got, I take it. I was fortunate to harvest the Tom’s I did on the property because that’s all it was is open fields and fence rows. I’m just using the tools available to me.


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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162383
01/30/21 05:17 PM
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Is there good ballistics tables on shotgun shells? I know tungsten is more expensive but also know they carry more energy.

Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162393
01/30/21 05:21 PM
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I don’t have an issue with someone killing at that distance, as long as one can kill at that distance every single time. I know people that buy TSS and think they now have a 70yd gun. TSS just hits harder. I like seeing that mist of red when a gobblers noggin is hit by it.
EVERYONE needs to pattern their gun every single year.

Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162649
01/30/21 08:02 PM
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I am with a lot of the other guys- there are 3 things I would tell anyone:
1) Carlson is top of the line. I also have an old Undertaker in a Mossberg the will do the job
2) Every gun and choke combination has a load it likes better than all the rest- your job is to find it
3) 50 is reaching. Some might even throw the less than ethical flag onto the field. Find out what your gun can do and adjuster your set up


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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162719
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I have the same gun. I have been using a hevi shot .662 choke and hevi shot magnum 3” blend 5, 6, 7 shot. Great combination with my 870. Upside, I pull the trigger and the birds are dead. No need to rush over. Most of my shots are 25-40 yards. Longest was 53yards. Each bird tipped over and a leg or wing twitched a couple times and died. Downside of this combination is the cost of shells $5-6 per shot before rebate

Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162735
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Sumtoy Choke shooting TSS or Hevi Shot Mag Blend.

Both of my guns have that setup and I have killed birds at 65.



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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: NWS,LLC] #7162837
01/30/21 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NWS,LLC
Another reason turkey hang up is overcalling, too loud, etc. Get in thick cover if possible and use topography against the bird with your calls. You won’t need to consider 50-60 yard shots. He be well in range.


Bingo, slip in as close as physically possible, sit down, get your gun up, yelp three times and SHUT UP.


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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162857
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If your shooting at birds 50 yards away I’d be working on my calling more then a pattern.


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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Law Dog] #7162873
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
If your shooting at birds 50 yards away I’d be working on my calling more then a pattern.

We have a lot of pressured birds around here. A lot of them are 4 and 5 years old. I don’t care how good of a caller you are. When he comes out into the field and he sees your decoys he is only going to come so far. He is the dominant bird and not going to budge a inch. He is use to the hens coming to him and he is not going to come within 10 yards of your decoy spread. The majority of the time he is going to skirt the decoys and move to another part of the field and wait to the hens come to him. I’ve killed Tom’s that you wouldn’t even know they was on the property because of the hunting pressure. They never gobble. There use to hearing every call that a hunter has. I understand what you guys are saying but saying someone is a bad hunter because they shoot birds at 50 yards is stupid. That would be like me putting down a sportsmen who hunts deer with a high powered rifle. We’re all in this together.


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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Ohiowoodchuck] #7162881
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Originally Posted by Ohiowoodchuck
Originally Posted by Law Dog
If your shooting at birds 50 yards away I’d be working on my calling more then a pattern.

We have a lot of pressured birds around here. A lot of them are 4 and 5 years old. I don’t care how good of a caller you are. When he comes out into the field and he sees your decoys he is only going to come so far. He is the dominant bird and not going to budge a inch. He is use to the hens coming to him and he is not going to come within 10 yards of your decoy spread. The majority of the time he is going to skirt the decoys and move to another part of the field and wait to the hens come to him. I’ve killed Tom’s that you wouldn’t even know they was on the property because of the hunting pressure. They never gobble. There use to hearing every call that a hunter has. I understand what you guys are saying but saying someone is a bad hunter because they shoot birds at 50 yards is stupid. That would be like me putting down a sportsmen who hunts deer with a high powered rifle. We’re all in this together.



stop making excuses dude. bottom line sometimes you pass the shot, thats all there is to it. if you just have to shoot cause thats as close as he was gonna get then sell your huntin gear and buy some golf clubs. you right we're in this together and im gonna call out anybody who makes excuses to justify flingin hail mary's at game animals.

Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162889
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Late season or shy birds are not easy for sure them later season gobbler come in walking fast and run when they don’t like what they see, 35 yard max shots for me.


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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: trap master] #7162907
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stop making excuses dude. bottom line sometimes you pass the shot, thats all there is to it. if you just have to shoot cause thats as close as he was gonna get then sell your huntin gear and buy some golf clubs. you right we're in this together and im gonna call out anybody who makes excuses to justify flingin hail mary's at game animals.[/quote]

I’m not making excuses “dude”. I’m just telling you my experience here in Ohio and you guys are trying to call me some unethical hunter for shooting and killing a turkey at 60 yards. I know my equipment and what it will do. If he strolls in at 35 yards then I’m going to take the shot but if he hangs up out there at 65 I know with out a doubt I can ethically kill that bird.


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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7162908
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Enormous hunting pressure here too, if it gobbles someone is trying to kill him. If you want to kill boss birds consistently then get in cover, call sparingly or as necessary, and be patient. He knows where you are. Killing boss birds is not shooting squirrels. Many will get quiet once committed and closing the final gap, may or may not gobble again. He’s looking and listening so a lot hunters get impatient and call too much or too loud and spook the bird unknowingly.

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A rifle must not be legal to use there? I would just use a rifle to field hunt if killing was only objective.

Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: NWS,LLC] #7162924
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Originally Posted by NWS,LLC
A rifle must not be legal to use there? I would just use a rifle to field hunt if killing was only objective.

No Ohio is a shotgun only with deer slugs or straight walled cartridge such as .444 marlin, .45-70 etc.


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Re: Turkey choke REM 870 3” [Re: Savagehunter30] #7163032
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When does 50 become 55 or 60 yards would be my concern I’ll stick with 35 yards because 40 is good if I’m off a bit.


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Originally Posted by Ohiowoodchuck

stop making excuses dude. bottom line sometimes you pass the shot, thats all there is to it. if you just have to shoot cause thats as close as he was gonna get then sell your huntin gear and buy some golf clubs. you right we're in this together and im gonna call out anybody who makes excuses to justify flingin hail mary's at game animals.


I’m not making excuses “dude”. I’m just telling you my experience here in Ohio and you guys are trying to call me some unethical hunter for shooting and killing a turkey at 60 yards. I know my equipment and what it will do. If he strolls in at 35 yards then I’m going to take the shot but if he hangs up out there at 65 I know with out a doubt I can ethically kill that bird. [/quote]


no your the kind of person who takes 50 and 60 yard shots and if you do happen to kill the bird you think you've done good and brag about shootin one so far away, and if you just wound or maim an animal you dont care you just go try to find another one. seen plenty of guys just like ya. its sad when your willing to risk wounding game just so you can say you killed something.

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