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Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: WIHAWK76] #7168088
02/03/21 08:57 PM
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First dose today and the 2nd scheduled for 4 weeks from today. So far just a bit of a stiff arm.

Bryce

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7168552
02/04/21 05:59 AM
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They are trying to force my sis to take it. She says she won't.

It might cost her alot. Like her job


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Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7168572
02/04/21 06:50 AM
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Since last Febuary when I had all the symptoms, I have been in close contact with several people who tested positive. I think I have developed a natural immunity. I have no desire to be a Guinea pig for a new vaccine. I have been told you must sign a release from liability before you get the shot? Uh Uh


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7168585
02/04/21 07:13 AM
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We were told for work, "We don't have a waiver yet for if you want to refuse the shot. Does Friday at 3:30 work for you?" Uuhhhh

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7168595
02/04/21 07:26 AM
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I don't mistrust the vaccine. I had Covid so I don't know that I'll need additional antibody stimulation & protection against the antigen? Science has not emerged with clarity regarding that.

I mistrust the precepts behind the rush to have everyone get it. Science? Hysteria? Compassion? Dictate?
Who knows anymore. It's all been put in a Waring blender and the speed set to HIGH.

1,000 people and 1,000 opinions.
Not very scientific.
If that's the goal of it all.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7168677
02/04/21 09:07 AM
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^^^^^ You mean individual liberty?
That's getting harder and harder and harder to "sell" in this nation of go along to get along, do what you're told, and my way or the highway.

I'm not at all opposed to community mind you. I profess to the most blessed community ever conceived.
It's not of this earth or even this marvelous nation, founded "against tyranny" on behalf of the individual, who more and more is a voice crying in the wilderness of America.
Perhaps that why tensions are a bit higher than normal?
Leave me be is now, more than yesteryear, being called all sorts of adjectives by our earthly comrades.
I refuse to stand with their cult wink because their leader is evil.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7168966
02/04/21 01:11 PM
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98% of people infected with the virus survived it.
If foolish governors hadn't sent infected patients into nursing homes, that number would be even less.
There have been several doctors on TV that said they aren't certain how long the vaccine will be effective.
Saw a doctor this morning who said the regular flu shot may help lessen the severity of the virus.
Several scientists have said the effectiveness of the vaccine against the mutated strain should be effective, but time will tell.

Have seen and read about doctors in other countries who have successfully treated and cured covid patients using hydroxychloroquine. Yet in this country they say it's not an effective treatment against the virus, but remdesivir is which is much more expensive. If that's true, should someone place their faith in people who can't be trusted? It's all about the money.

One question I have for those who have had the shot would be: If you've had the vaccine and are so convinced it's the best thing since sliced bread and will keep you protected from the virus, why are you so concerned about those who don't get the shot?


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7168980
02/04/21 01:22 PM
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Don't know if this has been mentioned yet as I haven't read through the entire post but my wife had a Dr's appt this morning. Her Dr. said if she is thinking of getting the vax shots, to get the antibodies test first because if you've had the virus and get the shots, the side affects are worse and more likely to cause problems.

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: ] #7168996
02/04/21 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bleeohio
Don't know if this has been mentioned yet as I haven't read through the entire post but my wife had a Dr's appt this morning. Her Dr. said if she is thinking of getting the vax shots, to get the antibodies test first because if you've had the virus and get the shots, the side affects are worse and more likely to cause problems.

That is true. Heard that on tv and know of a person whose wife had the virus. She got violently sick from getting the vaccine several months later. She was sick for about a week. He said he thought he might lose her the first couple days she was so sick. But, she is OK now, he said.

Interestingly, though the wife caught the virus, the husband never did. Ever hear of that? I know of a couple of cases like that. Why does that happen? Something in the spouse's chemical make up? It seems like poison ivy. Some people are real susceptible to it, while others are practically immune.


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7169000
02/04/21 01:34 PM
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It is interesting how some get it and some don't. Three coworkers that I spend a lot of time with got it and I didn't - at least that I know of.

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7169001
02/04/21 01:35 PM
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There is no immunity to this virus according to the phone call I had with my health department. Then again every state may be different. I’m “immune” for possibly 90 days then its game on again. I’ll test positive for up to 30 days from the first positive test. And vaccines don’t provide immunity either.

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7169267
02/04/21 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
People have died from it. Something like over 600 so far. Also this vaccine is not like the others you've taken. Something to do with RNA. It could cause your kids to become sterile just in case you someday want grandchildren. No way for this guy.


I don't know about this vaccine and sterilization. However, Bill Gates has been involved in vaccinating people on the Dark Continent with a mix that causes a percentage of sterilization. He is a part of a group that has been pushing population reductions using deceptions and vaccines to do so.


Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler
Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7169323
02/04/21 06:32 PM
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Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7169330
02/04/21 06:37 PM
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To those who object to the vaccine and masks, what is something you do to protect yourself and your loved ones from the contagious virus?

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7169337
02/04/21 06:44 PM
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I know this is going to be a waste of typing but I’m gonna do it anyway.

Just spent 2 weeks in a house with 6 people, 2 of which had covid. Minor symptoms for 3 days, but they kept to the upstairs for the most part. They did venture down and walk through just to get out and get some fresh air numerous times in the 2 weeks. No masks and no vaccines or even treatment for that matter. Nobody else got infected and everyone is back to work and their normal schedule.


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Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: charles] #7169353
02/04/21 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
To those who object to the vaccine and masks, what is something you do to protect yourself and your loved ones from the contagious virus?


I don't object to vaccines or masks. I object to others dictating how I handle my medical decisions and how I handle my families safety. If you believe your vaccine/mask works, you shouldn't be worried about my health status/personal choices.


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Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7169362
02/04/21 07:15 PM
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Scheduled first shot for Saturday. I figure take a chance of getting a laboratory developed virus, or take a laboratory developed vaccine. At least one of them is an attempt to save lives, the other IMHO was designed to kill people and ruin economies.

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7169465
02/04/21 08:44 PM
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^^^^^^
So he's basically saying we need to where masks forever? He wishes so. The medical/pharmaceutical industry are going to try to ride this gravy train as long as they can.


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Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: charles] #7169477
02/04/21 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
To those who object to the vaccine and masks, what is something you do to protect yourself and your loved ones from the contagious virus?


I wash my hands a lot and try to keep some distance from people. I can't protect everyone else. That's up to them.

Re: Covid vaccicine.. To get ot not to get [Re: cathryn] #7169487
02/04/21 08:55 PM
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The rules are just that; rules.
Rhyme or reason? More rhyme perhaps as many try to err on the side of "just in case."

Interestingly we have a homeless woman who has arrived at our DTS library and I'm not sure where from, other than the local area around campus here in downtown Dallas is a crossroads of new townhouses meets the not so marvelous neighborhood. Anyway, I attempted to talk with her, but her mental state doesn't seem to allow it. Although today she had books all over a table in library and was penning something of great length with huge theology books all around her. I took a double-triple take, as did everyone coming and going. Interesting and kinda cool. Had me smiling then as it does now.

As far as Covid, we're required to mask up on campus, and that's fine. No one seems to dare "require" her to wear one based on the Dallas city ordinance, not even campus police, which I find intriguing. I don't care, and that doesn't matter at all, but the homeless here don't wear masks, and they have not had vaccinations, and I wonder how many are suffering as a result?

The things that matter don't seem to matter much right now and the things that don't really matter seem to matter much.
Kinda backwards.

Blessings,
Mark

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