Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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Other countries keep buying our Treasury debt. Only positive I can see. Interest payments will be a problem That is no longer true. The single largest holder of U.S. governmental debt is the Federal Reserve. They print the stuff and then buy in back in treasury notes. How that makes any sense at all is a head scratcher. Sooner or later, the "big reset" is going to happen...
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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Pretty much the whole world is going bankrupt, they are all operating under a bubble...k
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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Most of our national debt is held by Americans in the form of Treasury notes, bills, bonds.
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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They have the majority of folks by the short hair, so people will not suddenly demand things to be corrected. It is said that a full 70% of Americans don't even have $1000 in savings, so who the heck wants things to "correct" if you live paycheck to paycheck (or gov. check to gov. check). The powers that be know all that stuff. In a massive collapse, it ain't gunna be like October of 1929. It won't be soup lines and everyone packing up to go stay at the farm with Maw and Paw til things get better. It will, with todays self centered society, be more along the lines of Mad Max or The Postman.
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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Most of our national debt is held by Americans in the form of Treasury notes, bills, bonds.Jim Yeah, you can say the Federal Reserve is "Americans" but probably not quite what you inferred here. 39%, Sir James, 39% as of last fall was held by the Fed Reserve. Like I said, an interesting scheme; print the stuff and then buy back the IOUs. I'm sure your friend Ms Yellen will have them print and buy back more. Enjoy the run while it lasts... https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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* Watch out, I am surprised no one here remembers how they fixed all the debt in foreign countries.
I wouldn't know either except when I was young I worked with a lot of people that went through a debt riddance in their country.
Easy -- change the paper money -- print new money different color and that means all debt is wiped out and we start new.
Throw your old paper money in the stove and burn it !
They al told me keep your change (coins) it costs too much to change them.
I hope it doesn't happen while I am alive but it is a cure.
Bad part is that history Repeats itself ! *
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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Most of our national debt is held by Americans in the form of Treasury notes, bills, bonds.Jim Yeah, you can say the Federal Reserve is "Americans" but probably not quite what you inferred here. 39%, Sir James, 39% as of last fall was held by the Fed Reserve. Like I said, an interesting scheme; print the stuff and then buy back the IOUs. I'm sure your friend Ms Yellen will have them print and buy back more. Enjoy the run while it lasts... https://www.thebalance.com/who-owns-the-u-s-national-debt-3306124"The public holds over $21 trillion, or almost 78%, of the national debt." - Source: Your article. Jim
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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"The public holds over $21 trillion, or almost 78%, of the national debt." - Source: Your article.Jim Did you read a little closer...? The article or whoever considers the Fed Reserve part of the "public". It is, after all, a "private entity"
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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Good question Grandpa. I wonder why other poor countries don't print $ like we do...I suppose they can't get people to buy treasury bonds like we do, I don't know.
It's interesting how the Fed govt operates so out of balance, yet states & local govts seem to try to operate on a balanced budget.
I wish I had the answers to your question Grandpa. I've been wondering this myself. Thanks for asking the question on here.
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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Good question Grandpa. I wonder why other poor countries don't print $ like we do...I suppose they can't get people to buy treasury bonds like we do, I don't know.
It's interesting how the Fed govt operates so out of balance, yet states & local govts seem to try to operate on a balanced budget.
I wish I had the answers to your question Grandpa. I've been wondering this myself. Thanks for asking the question on here. It's federal law that state and local governments must run a balanced budget.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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As long as the GNP keeps growing and the world trades in dollars....never. Eventually we will print too much and the world will say no more.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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It moved closer in the dead of night last night. They voted to block the filibuster so it will be moving on to the 1.9 trillion dollar bailout of teacher's unions. We are in big trouble. LLL
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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we been in big trouble mr combine and it is definitely coming to a head
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Re: At what point will this country go bankrupt?
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I I's federal law that state and local governments must run a balanced budget. Steven 49er- I think you're wrong there. A good number of states have governmental debt, the highest are the "usual suspects" of big Dem states. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/debt-by-state
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