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Engine's in (finally) #7170184
02/05/21 12:59 PM
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I finally got.my.new used engine and trans installed in my truck this last weekend, we had some nice weather,but now it's cold and nasty, so it's gonna sit some more. [Linked Image]
All kinds of fitment issues, more than you'd think when it's the same engine (302) as before, with a different trans (aod). I used my original exhaust manifolds, the exit location is different than the ones that came on the engine. I don't want to have to buy a new exhaust just yet, so I used the old ones so I could hook up my old exhaust. One problem..... [Linked Image]
The new transmission's dipstick tube sits directly in the way of the right side manifold's exit. I've got a stainless braided flexible tube coming, hopefully that'll give me room to get my exhaust in or else I'll be buying some long tube headers and an exhaust system.
The heater hose outlets are on the back of this motor, under the intake manifold, they were on the front of the old motor. I can't use the old hose connections because the coolant temp sensor is in the heater hose pipe on the new motor,and I need that. Some random heater hoses from the parts store will get that hooked up fine though.
I'm trying to reuse my old mechanical throttle linkage, but the rod from the pedal assembly wasn't long enough afterbending it to get past the TV cable bracket, so I had to get some rod from the hardware store, anneal it in a fire to make it bendable enough, and I'll need to bend it correctly and cut some threads onto it.
The intake tube runs directly into the brake lines, so I'll either need to resend them out of the way, or find some aftermarket cold air kit. I think those look kinda hokey, and I want the look of a factory motor including the air intake, so I'll likely move the brake lines.
Then, once I get all these fitment issues figured out, I still have to wire it up and plumb up a new.fuel system. Fun stuff. I need some warm weather, because I'm doing all this in the driveway. It'll get done eventually grin

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Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: loosegoose] #7170194
02/05/21 01:05 PM
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Cool!


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Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: loosegoose] #7170235
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How about the ignition?
On GM I switched the connector from an hei and by-passed computer.
Thing ran like a ape but the fuel consumption sucked.

If you were closer I'd hire you day rate.
One here right up your alley.
Complete with shade tree and beer. grin

Looks like you WILL win.





Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: loosegoose] #7170239
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Better off re-routing the dipstick than the exhaust.

Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: ] #7170246
02/05/21 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtydogtrapping
Nice set up, what motor mounts did you use in it ?

I just bought new factory style motor mounts for a 302/77 f150. Both the old and new engines are a 302, so that wasn't a problem. The tranny was a little tricky, but not terrible. The original style C4 mount bolts right to the AOD, but it sits a couple inches further forward, so I have to drill the frame and move the crossmember forward.

Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: loosegoose] #7170248
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Your gettin it done Goose, nice work!


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: Wright Brothers] #7170249
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
How about the ignition?
On GM I switched the connector from an hei and by-passed computer.
Thing ran like a ape but the fuel consumption sucked.

If you were closer I'd hire you day rate.
One here right up your alley.
Complete with shade tree and beer. grin

Looks like you WILL win.

The ignition module talks to the PCM on this and tells it where it is in the firing order, and the PCM determines spark advance. There's no weights or advance mechanism inside the distributor, it's just a hall effect pickup so I'll have to use the new distributor. But the module just needs a run and start wire, so it shouldn't be a problem. I got a NOS without ng diagram for the car that the engine came out of (87 merc grand marquis), and I do lots and lots of aftermarket wiring at my job, so it shouldn't be too bad.

Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: hippie] #7170253
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Originally Posted by hippie
Better off re-routing the dipstick than the exhaust.

Hopefully this aftermarket flexible thing I ordered works okay. I need a new exhaust anyway, what's on there is garbage 2 inch single exhaust, I just don't want to have to pay for a new one just yet. I did some searching and I found that the distick on a Ford 4r70w (newer version of an AOD) is routed a little different, so that may be another option.

Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: loosegoose] #7170295
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all that work for a ford?come on man.LOL


U GOTTA DO WHAT U GOTTA DO CAUSE IT IS WHAT IT IS....AINT NOTHIN WRONG WITH QUIET
Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: loosegoose] #7170577
02/05/21 08:50 PM
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The biggest issue lies inside of the oval.
Prayers sent...

Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: HILLTOP TRAPPER] #7170662
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Originally Posted by HILLTOP TRAPPER
all that work for a ford?come on man.LOL

laugh


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Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: 52Carl] #7171221
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
The biggest issue lies inside of the oval.
Prayers sent...

They draw that oval around it to try to contain the mess laugh

Re: Engine's in (finally) [Re: loosegoose] #7171714
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Better get a Cummins lol

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