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Storing small engines #7174152
02/08/21 04:52 PM
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Gas with stabilizer in tank,... engine run dry, with or without oil in cylinder, ...Tru gas 50 to 1, run engine, 2 or 4 stroke then put it away...??........and so on.
and yes ethanol gas is the enemy and no where to get real gas.
Trying to find the best system, but seems every mechanic has a different opinion, .

I usually use gas with stabilizer, then run dry, that usually works...except when it don't, grin
I googled this and the above were just several examples. Any small engine guys have an idea?,

Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174164
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I just use the stabilizer and run them low in the spring and add fresh gas then, I don’t like the idea of dry gaskets over winter.


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174213
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I just use gas without ethanol and they seem to be fine.

Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174216
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I switched from seafoam to startron for stabilizing fuel. I also fog the cylinders. Spray it in the carb while running, then pull the plug and spray inside the cylinder.


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174219
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Before storing, I like a mostly empty tank, fill it with fresh gas (non ethanol) and add fuel stabalizer. Run for a little bit and put away. I haven't had any problems doing this.

Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174221
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I use ethanol free gas with stabil in it. Run the engine for a little while then (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) it off and store it. Never had any problems.

Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174225
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Ethanol free gas, Stabil, and fogging oil. And then on the aluminum parts, (heads, crankcases, etc) I spray with either anti corrosion spray or silicon spray depending on the environment.


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174228
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I have always used no ethanol gas in everything. Still had to clean carbs in snow machines and outboards about 1/2 the time when stored a year with sea foam. I switched to Startron several years ago and cant believe the difference. Even fired up an 84 Yamaha Enticer stored 3 years in Canada on the 5th pull without adding fresh gas! I was never a big believer in additives, but this Startron stuff is legit!

Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174235
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This guy has some good videos. This one is related to this specific topic and fuel. Seems alcohol isn't the entire issue. I learned something anyhow.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...8F19A22AE7&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174257
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I buy gas with no ethanol at the old general store, and put stabilizer also some seafoam in it.
If metal gas tank I fill them, plastic tank about a 1/4 is good.
Than run them a while.
Old red gets a full tank with the same mix. (57 chevy)
Both wheelers get run enough that 91 all gas has worked out for years now and no trouble.
I also never have liked the dry carburetor .


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7174305
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
I switched from seafoam to startron for stabilizing fuel. I also fog the cylinders. Spray it in the carb while running, then pull the plug and spray inside the cylinder.

^^^^ this


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174319
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Well i guess I dont actually store them.I start them up every month,month and a half, or so and let run for a couple minutes.Chainsaws,bikes, snowmachines,generator,lawn mower,snow blower,etc.I started using premium gas not too long ago,but never had problems with the cheaper gas in the past.
All that additive junk cant be good for them.


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174368
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2 cycle seems to gum up the easiest compared to straight gas.


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7174386
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
I switched from seafoam to startron for stabilizing fuel. I also fog the cylinders. Spray it in the carb while running, then pull the plug and spray inside the cylinder.


I also switched to startron picked up a chainsaw I had put away first week of may I cut up and hauled home a tree the next day I was in the hospital with a blood clot well till they sent me home hte same day cause covid , really not complaining my bed is better than the hospital and I have better tv and wifi 7 days in bed.

well I didn't start that saw again till November it was left almost full with startron treated ethanol free gas saw always takes 2 pulls one it pops , turn the choke off and 2nd it fires , it was no different after 6 moths of sitting.

I am sold on startron , had several small engines that I use startron gas in and they are starting great after months of storage

I do typicaly run engines dry but have just started leaving a full tank of fresh startron treated fuel in them.


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174395
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Use the pre mix gas in a can. Expensive as heck but since I started using it I have had NO problems at all. I think the last I bought was like 18 bucks a gallon but it lasted all year, so I am good with it.

For 4 cycle engines use a stabilizer and Mid grade pump gas w/o ethanol. Make sure the pump gas is ethanol free. It is not only the E-gas that messes the carbs up but it is a major factor.

I only use the fogger stuff in my smaller boat motors.

Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174398
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I don't run my boat motors for the four months of cold weather. I use to run the carburetor dry in the fall after the last run and do something with the left over gas; use it up in the truck etc. Last several years been using Seafoam and now I leave the same gas in year around and don't run the tank dry, Works great; fire up in the spring and go, and Seafoam is GOOOOD for a 2 cycle engine. Keeps carbon down and crud and varnish from building up in the carb.

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Got this info from my small engine guy ...40 years in business

A....Use mid grade gas

B.... mid grade is good for 3 months

C...Gas Stablizer not so good

D...when long time storage or 6 month storage....Drain gas tank...then run it dry...then pour in some Tru Gas...let run for minute..Done


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174413
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I started using 100 octane aviation fuel in my 2 two strokes mixed 32 to 2 and tuned for it.

It has a 5 year shelf life and never have had a problem since. Its expensive and requires a trip to the airport but I get 5 gal at a time and I'm good for nearly a year.

The best part is you don't stink from the exhaust like you do running pump gas at 50 to 1. The exhaust is almost pleasant and does not cling to you.

Re: Storing small engines [Re: Law Dog] #7174418
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
I just use the stabilizer and run them low in the spring and add fresh gas then, I don’t like the idea of dry gaskets over winter.


Yep
Add stabilizer to the last tank or two of use in the fall. They typically start right up three months later in the spring. Once in a while need a shot of WD-40 or ether.


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Re: Storing small engines [Re: gcs] #7174714
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I uaually put stabil in my stuff come winter. My Pappy, when he parked his motorhome for the winter, would just start it up, pop the air filter off the top of the carb and simply choke out the engine by pouring Marvel Mystery Oil down the carb til it quit. The next spring he'd just crank it over and over til the oil was out of it and drive it. It always started.


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