Re: Picking up my beef !!
[Re: topknot]
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02/10/21 09:34 AM
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I am not sure how you are paying 1.32$ per pound hanging weight, which includes processing! Around hear your going to be paying around 4$ minimum hanging weight with processing fees separate. Thats way above market value. I believe the market value on a fat beef is around $1.88 hanging
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Re: Picking up my beef !!
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/10/21 10:02 AM
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Yes storage is not cheap. But just the high cost of burger will pencil out the cost of electricity. to many people have to have profit from the grocery store beef.
The guy selling calves, the trucker hauling calves to the feed lot. the feedlot, the trucker hauling commodities to the feed lot, the trucker hauling fat cattle to the processer, the processer, the trucker hauling beef to the distribution center, the distribution center, the trucker hauling groceries to the retail outlet, and finally the retail outlet.
Electricity and a freezer is still cheaper than all that. At least I think it is. No room for beef when the freezers are all full of 3 dollar beaver hides!
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Re: Picking up my beef !!
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/10/21 10:10 AM
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P.S. Crit R Dun, I've been to many many commercial chicken processing plants and barns and feed mills. I do like the eggs my daughter and her husband collect from their free ranging birds. When you feed your meat birds feed from a bag, they are no different than what Tyson is butchering. The place i buy bulk meats Restaurant Depot i can get chicken leg Qtrs. for 34cents a lb. 40 lb. case
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Re: Picking up my beef !!
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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02/10/21 11:06 AM
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When I trapped around many chicken houses in Arkansas I got to know a chicken farmer quite well. He taught me a couple a things about raising chicks to broiler size birds.
Like how they put on their weight so fast. It just wasnt from feeding plain mash, grain feed and water. I was told they added arsenic to their feed to increase their growth rate in a shorter period of time. This wasn't done by the farmer but was pre mixed into the feed when brought and put into the feed hoppers.
This may be common knowledge to those in the chicken business but I was a bit concerned when told. I laid off buying Tyson and Wayne Foods chicken after that. Chickens are not fed arsenic and never have been. He was mistaken, but he wasn't lying. Arsenic is natural and organic and other foods can convert into minute amounts of arsenic when eaten. https://www.chickencheck.in/faq/arsenic-chicken/
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Re: Picking up my beef !!
[Re: Yes sir]
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02/10/21 11:12 AM
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I am not sure how you are paying 1.32$ per pound hanging weight, which includes processing! Around hear your going to be paying around 4$ minimum hanging weight with processing fees separate. Thats way above market value. I believe the market value on a fat beef is around $1.88 hanging this is correct.
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Re: Picking up my beef !!
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/10/21 12:23 PM
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P.S. Crit R Dun, I've been to many many commercial chicken processing plants and barns and feed mills. I do like the eggs my daughter and her husband collect from their free ranging birds. When you feed your meat birds feed from a bag, they are no different than what Tyson is butchering. On the surface it may appear that way. But take mine for example yes I feed a commercial feed but there is much more to it than that. Conditions being primary. My meat birds stay in a wood frame enclosed for predator protection. The bottom is open as are 2/3rods the top and sides that have chicken wire. It gets moved once or twice a day on to fresh grass. Once when they are small twice as they grow out. They get sun and open air, catch bugs and get to scratch and eat grass along with their feed. They don't sit in their own filth and have to be medicated because of the airborne poo particle they are breathing in causing micro abrasions in their lungs. They are healthier and they for taste better. Its apparent if you cook one of mine and a store bought bird. The broth from the store bird will have a gray tinted appearance not noticeable until directly with one of my birds. My egg birds get moved around the farm with the goats and sheep. Their coup is built on a 16' car trailer and stays inside the electro net fence the goats and sheep stay in. They also get commercial feed with some added sunflower seeds. But they free range inside the rotational grazing fence and eat lots of bugs and vegetation. I have a lot of customers that agree and pay $5lb.and 4.50 dozen eggs And pick them up from the farm. I guess if someone is raising them in the traditional poop filled mud runs you may be correct on there not being much different.
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Re: Picking up my beef !!
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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02/10/21 12:29 PM
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No he was not mistaken, and shared that info on several occasions as reference to fast growth. I know the facts from that time frame of when I was working the chicken farms and surrounding areas for predator control.
This was during the 90's to early 2000's. Things may have changed from those years but it did occur and was common practice in those years. Organic or not, aresenic is still arsenic. It was a growth stimulator. It was used and labeled as a feed medicine but used none the less. Again, yes he was. As are you I suppose. They have never been fed arsenic. You can read the link I provided, or you can Google for your own results. They will all tell you the same thing. This is how people become so ignorant regarding their food, they believe anything they're told or see on the internet. Now this is one more time this false information has been put on on the web, for millions of people to find.
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Re: Picking up my beef !!
[Re: Providence Farm]
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02/10/21 01:53 PM
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P.S. Crit R Dun, I've been to many many commercial chicken processing plants and barns and feed mills. I do like the eggs my daughter and her husband collect from their free ranging birds. When you feed your meat birds feed from a bag, they are no different than what Tyson is butchering. On the surface it may appear that way. But take mine for example yes I feed a commercial feed but there is much more to it than that. Conditions being primary. My meat birds stay in a wood frame enclosed for predator protection. The bottom is open as are 2/3rods the top and sides that have chicken wire. It gets moved once or twice a day on to fresh grass. Once when they are small twice as they grow out. They get sun and open air, catch bugs and get to scratch and eat grass along with their feed. They don't sit in their own filth and have to be medicated because of the airborne poo particle they are breathing in causing micro abrasions in their lungs. They are healthier and they for taste better. Its apparent if you cook one of mine and a store bought bird. The broth from the store bird will have a gray tinted appearance not noticeable until directly with one of my birds. My egg birds get moved around the farm with the goats and sheep. Their coup is built on a 16' car trailer and stays inside the electro net fence the goats and sheep stay in. They also get commercial feed with some added sunflower seeds. But they free range inside the rotational grazing fence and eat lots of bugs and vegetation. I have a lot of customers that agree and pay $5lb.and 4.50 dozen eggs And pick them up from the farm. I guess if someone is raising them in the traditional poop filled mud runs you may be correct on there not being much different. Some people get it, others don't or choose not to. Just like home grown meat birds costing 3 times what their styrofoam chicken costs.
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Re: Picking up my beef !!
[Re: M.Magis]
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02/10/21 02:49 PM
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Because if you actually do the math, it makes more sense to just buy the specific cuts you want then to buy the entire beef. Most cattlemen I know don’t even butcher their own, its not worth the cost to feed one. I do my own because I like to butcher, but even with no processing costs it still doesn’t pencil out. And I’ll only consider butchering one that I know I’ll take a beating on at the sale. Any good steer goes to the sale. And we eat a lot of roasts, most people don’t need near as many as comes from a whole beef. Same for burger, its way more than most people want. Makes better financial sense to buy steaks when you want them. Of course Magis ANYTHING I do is wrong. BUT you are smoking dope. I just un loaded my beef 573 lbs total 1642.28 bucks total. I had 19 packs of ribeye 1/2 thick and 2 per pack. 15 T-bone packed 2 per pack 1 in cut. Plus tons of burger and roast . steaks galore. The rib eye and t- bones alone would cost more than what I paid for the ENTIRE beef if I bought it at the grocery store. !!!
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