Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
[Re: trapperjdb]
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I like #3 Victor Montgomery traps X2!
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
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02/12/21 09:28 PM
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I caught a lot of coyotes in 1.5 Victor, Montgomery RJ and Duke traps way back before I found trapperman and found out they won't work on coyotes. I believe Leggett's caught 600+ in a season in Victor 1.75 (same trap as a Duke 1.75). I can't recall the exact number its been many years since I watched their video on it. (Great video BTW if you're an aspiring coyote trapper.)
To answer your question with your regulations, the Duke 1 3/4 with offset jaws is the best choice for cheap coyote trap. would you do any mods that didn't require welding?
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
[Re: bigfoottrapper]
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02/12/21 10:06 PM
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I caught a lot of coyotes in 1.5 Victor, Montgomery RJ and Duke traps way back before I found trapperman and found out they won't work on coyotes. I believe Leggett's caught 600+ in a season in Victor 1.75 (same trap as a Duke 1.75). I can't recall the exact number its been many years since I watched their video on it. (Great video BTW if you're an aspiring coyote trapper.)
To answer your question with your regulations, the Duke 1 3/4 with offset jaws is the best choice for cheap coyote trap. would you do any mods that didn't require welding? Wouldn't hurt. You could add a mid-chain swivel, bend the jaw tips up a little so they are less likely to pull back through the frame, file the pan and dog so it fires like you like (maybe a nightlatch), you could upgrade the chain, swivels, and J-hooks (I would use the stock chains myself.) Really very little needs done to them they are suitable right of the box to hold coyotes. They will hold any they get a good grip on.
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
[Re: bigfoottrapper]
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02/12/21 10:07 PM
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If $$$ was the driving force, I would have to go with a Duke #2 DC OS. 5.88" jaw spread, 4coiled, @~$105/doz. (new)
For me personally, price isn't the sole driver. I look for trap size, usability out of the box, swiveling and wanting a dogless design w/ great pan tension adjustment .... waiting for a look at the MB dogless.
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
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02/12/21 10:08 PM
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I like #3 Victor Montgomery traps X2! Probably bigger than the 6" max size he asked about though... ???
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
[Re: bigfoottrapper]
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[quote=trapperjdb]I like #3 Victor Montgomery traps Probably bigger than the 6" max size he asked about though... ??? #3 4CS FOJ Victor Montgomery - 5 13/16 jaw spread, 4 coiled, dogless, forged OS jaw @~$220.00/doz
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
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02/13/21 07:38 AM
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Don't over look the bridger 1.75. Very inexpensive, base plated, thicker rounded edge square jaws and steel generally thicker than dukes. You also get two good thick swivels and welded chain on them stock, not twist link. I have caught a lot of coyotes in these and price is right there to duke 175s but a much better built trap. I have a few dozen of these and they are a great trap for the $8 a piece price range. There is also very little difference between a duke 2 round jaw and a duke 1.75 round jaw, except for price and different number on the pan. I have a bunch of these too but I use them in high traffic and possible theft areas. Dukes have a place on my line but please know I rebend and retune my dukes often after coyote catches and in these higher risk locations i don't get upset as much over a stolen or damaged one. My bridgers get set in better locations. I will say though the newer square jaw dukes look like a vast improvement over their round jaw 2s and 1.75s. Jim Coyote in bridger 1.75. Even in slippery mud it wasn't going anywhere.
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
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If $$$ was the driving force, I would have to go with a Duke #2 DC OS. 5.88" jaw spread, 4coiled, @~$105/doz. (new)
For me personally, price isn't the sole driver. I look for trap size, usability out of the box, swiveling and wanting a dogless design w/ great pan tension adjustment .... waiting for a look at the MB dogless. Yes, the new Duke #2 dogless. I bought for $105/dz also. Only recommendation is you might want to upgrade chain/swivels.
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
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Do you really think a coyote Is going to break that chain or compromise that swivel? I've caught lots of coyotes In the Duke dog on # 2 and never had any problems with those parts.
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
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I got some Wolf Creek #1.5 Eliminators and modified them. Let me tell you, you CAN'T beat them for the price! Wasn't duke traps one of your YouTube sponsors........ Yes sir, they are. Wolf Creek & Sleepy Creek are sponsors also.
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
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02/13/21 02:33 PM
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Don't over look the bridger 1.75. Very inexpensive, base plated, thicker rounded edge square jaws and steel generally thicker than dukes. You also get two good thick swivels and welded chain on them stock, not twist link. I have caught a lot of coyotes in these and price is right there to duke 175s but a much better built trap. I have a few dozen of these and they are a great trap for the $8 a piece price range. There is also very little difference between a duke 2 round jaw and a duke 1.75 round jaw, except for price and different number on the pan. I have a bunch of these too but I use them in high traffic and possible theft areas. Dukes have a place on my line but please know I rebend and retune my dukes often after coyote catches and in these higher risk locations i don't get upset as much over a stolen or damaged one. My bridgers get set in better locations. I will say though the newer square jaw dukes look like a vast improvement over their round jaw 2s and 1.75s. Jim Coyote in bridger 1.75. Even in slippery mud it wasn't going anywhere. Good catch! No doubt they will work, but I actually prefer the Bridger 1.65 to the 1.75 for its larger jaw spread and conventional pan set up. I'd still pick the Dukes 1.75 over both. That's why there are lots of trap choices, everyone likes something different in their traps.
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Re: smallest/cheapest COYOTE trap?
[Re: The Beav]
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02/13/21 03:28 PM
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Do you really think a coyote Is going to break that chain or compromise that swivel? I've caught lots of coyotes In the Duke dog on # 2 and never had any problems with those parts. I agree beav. But out here in the west I re chain and weld all j's shut If I knew I was going to only catch coyotes being the biggest critters I get ,it would be less work .
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