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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7179959
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Its important to have your scraper sharp with the edge turned like a fleshing knife.
Sharpen only from one side with the file,and play around with the angle a bit.Feel with your thumb for a bit of a bur.And touch it up with a couple strokes when it starts to dull(the edge will turn)You will know when you got it right-the shavings will come off like the shavings from planing a pine board.
The only other thing you need besides the scraper to make it work good, is cold enough.


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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7179966
02/13/21 01:22 AM
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Omg I did a beaver this evening and almost died. I'm still a newbie at all this, but holy smokes its cold in Texas right now.

Re: Frost Scraping [Re: Jiggamitch] #7180017
02/13/21 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jiggamitch
Omg I did a beaver this evening and almost died. I'm still a newbie at all this, but holy smokes its cold in Texas right now.


Don't they sell winter clothes in Texas?


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Boco couldn't catch a cold.

But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
Re: Frost Scraping [Re: KenaiKid] #7180044
02/13/21 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by KenaiKid
Originally Posted by Jiggamitch
Omg I did a beaver this evening and almost died. I'm still a newbie at all this, but holy smokes its cold in Texas right now.


Don't they sell winter clothes in Texas?


They do, but it rarely gets cold like this. Just not use to this kind of cold.

Re: Frost Scraping [Re: Jiggamitch] #7180070
02/13/21 07:53 AM
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Iíll tell you, like I told my Kansas family. ďSorry about not closing the doorĒ! grin As cold as these past few days have been, Iím surprised how quickly people have forgotten that we had not even had a winter up until now. Gotta pay something in, to live where I do is my take on it. Few more days and itíll be over, at least Iíll have some safer ice to play on the river now. Regretting putting up all my beavers already, will have to save some back next winter to give this frost scraping a try. Of course I always think that, but forget by the time next winter rolls around.


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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: Boco] #7180356
02/13/21 12:22 PM
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I tried the paint scraper last weekend worked ok ..made a new one out of a old ice auger blade waaaaay better ..thanks BOCO sure is nice to be able to thin the backs and butts of thick hides

Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180378
02/13/21 12:41 PM
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I'm going to do my hides In where It's warm and I can work In a Tee shirt. And I'm not going to have to nail up that hide twice. Your going to have to pull the nails to clean up that area then re nail It.
10 min In a nice warm shed and I'm done fleshing.
I bet if you had 10 beaver to do you would lose interest In frost scrapping In a big hurry. LOL

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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180396
02/13/21 12:54 PM
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Beave,you have no clue-you have never done it.Paul Milette working with his wife frost scraped and put up 80 beaver in 8 hours.I have scraped and put up 10 easy in 2 hours.That includes putting them out the night before and finishing them the next day.
I have done beaver your way and every other way and I know what I'm talking about when I say frostscraping is BY FAR the fastest easiest most convenient way to put up certain furs like beaver bear otter and wolf.Not to mention the superior finished product
Also you dont need a bunch of beams, tools,etc and your not working in stinky sloppy grease and you are never time constrained to get on it before it spoils-you do it whenever you have a few minutes here and there while doing other stuff.
I can nail up 20 beaver,put them out and do 4 or 5 over a few days whenever I have 10 minutes while waiting for my vehicle to warm up to go trapping as long as the weather is cold in the morning.

But I guess your an expert on something you have never done,lol.


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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180404
02/13/21 01:01 PM
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This beaver was pulled up out of the water and partially eaten by wolves late last fall.
There is enough nice fur for a beaver hat so I salvaged it.
I spent a few extra minutes on it this morning and frost scraped down the leather to about the thickness of a fox skin.I will tan this one myself.

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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: Boco] #7180415
02/13/21 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Beave,you have no clue-you have never done it.
I have done beaver your way and every other way and I know what I'm talking about when I say frostscraping is BY FAR the fastest easiest most convenient way to put up certain furs like beaver bear otter and wolf.Not to mention the superior finished product
Also you dont need a bunch of beams, tools,etc and your not working in stinky sloppy grease and you are never time constrained to get on it before it spoils-you do it whenever you have a few minutes here and there while doing other stuff.
I can nail up 20 beaver,put them out and do 4 or 5 over a few days whenever I have 10 minutes while waiting for my vehicle to warm up to go trapping as long as the weather is cold in the morning.



Keen eye for the obvious. Not all of us chose to live where your temperatures are conducive to frost scraping.

It goes without saying that you live and work fur in about the most ideal conditions, for you. I would rather work through my fur in warm comfort.

Re: Frost Scraping [Re: mad_mike] #7180419
02/13/21 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
Originally Posted by Boco
Beave,you have no clue-you have never done it.
I have done beaver your way and every other way and I know what I'm talking about when I say frostscraping is BY FAR the fastest easiest most convenient way to put up certain furs like beaver bear otter and wolf.Not to mention the superior finished product
Also you dont need a bunch of beams, tools,etc and your not working in stinky sloppy grease and you are never time constrained to get on it before it spoils-you do it whenever you have a few minutes here and there while doing other stuff.
I can nail up 20 beaver,put them out and do 4 or 5 over a few days whenever I have 10 minutes while waiting for my vehicle to warm up to go trapping as long as the weather is cold in the morning.



Keen eye for the obvious. Not all of us chose to live where your temperatures are conducive to frost scraping.

It goes without saying that you live and work fur in about the most ideal conditions, for you. I would rather work through my fur in warm comfort.


I guess that means you dont trap in the cold,LOL!
In Canada we prefer to be outdoors whenever we can,including winter.
Unlike Americans we dont shrivel and hide from the cold.We prefer the cold and revel in it.After all fur is all about cold.

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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180427
02/13/21 01:17 PM
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You people can do up your fur any way you want,but until you do something your negative judgement on it is baseless.
I have demo'd all 7 ways to put up beaver and I am proficient at all 7 ways,when I say one way is easiest and most efficient for my conditions,you can take it to the bank.
I'm sure whatever way works best for those in the warmer climates use that method that is easiest and most efficient too.

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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180433
02/13/21 01:21 PM
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I have ideal conditions at camp for frost scraping. I choose not to because I donít want to leave any smells around that will attract bears when Iím not there.

Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180437
02/13/21 01:26 PM
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You cant trap bears?
We have no bears out here in winter,and the scrapings I use for bait,feeding birds and other small animals on the line.Long gone before any bears come out.I keep my camp clean otherwise bears will damage it whether I frostscrape or not.
Do you leave the fleshings from other methods laying around?Dont they attract bears?


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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180443
02/13/21 01:28 PM
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Well Boco I never said It didn't work I just said I prefer to do it my way.
I trapped beaver for 15 years In the Carolina's and my numbers were pretty impressive Averaged at least 250 beaver In a 2 month period. So I got darn good at skinning and putting up beaver.

20 beaver Is about a half days work In a warm dry shed. And they turn out just fine for the fur market.


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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: Boco] #7180444
02/13/21 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
You people can do up your fur any way you want,but until you do something your negative judgement on it is baseless.
I have demo'd all 7 ways to put up beaver and I am proficient at all 7 ways,when I say one way is easiest and most efficient for my conditions,you can take it to the bank.
I'm sure whatever way works best for those in the warmer climates use that method that is easiest and most efficient too.

BINGO.
Whatever works best for YOU.
It shouldnít be this way vs. that way. And I sure as heck will not move somewhere colder to try that way out.

Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180451
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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180456
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No, I canít trap bears. smile I also keep camp clean and bears come around all summer, but I donít want them sticking around any longer than they would otherwise. All my fleshing is done inside over double tarps and tarps are cleaned and stored in the cache. I suppose I could frost scrape over tarps outside but see no need to.

Re: Frost Scraping [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7180461
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Freezes the fat hard so it doesnt gum the scraper.I frost scraped a bunch of beaver at 50 below-it was effortless to say the least.
if you dont have the cold there is no use trying it-you wont gain the advantage of ease of work and speed and you can damage a hide if the leather is a bit soft.The sharp scraper can dig in and move sideways instead of shaving leaving a score on the skin.


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Re: Frost Scraping [Re: 3 Fingers] #7180463
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Originally Posted by 3 Fingers
No, I canít trap bears. smile I also keep camp clean and bears come around all summer, but I donít want them sticking around any longer than they would otherwise. All my fleshing is done inside over double tarps and tarps are cleaned and stored in the cache. I suppose I could frost scrape over tarps outside but see no need to.

Its easier to clean up frostscraping than any other scraping inside or out.If you dont sweep it into a pail for bait,it blows away into the bush and is consumed almost right away by all the little critters and birds.

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