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Re: Fur Market
[Re: walleye101]
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02/16/21 09:56 AM
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Marty B
"arbitrary noob"
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Did you see the video of Groenwalds facility stacked to the rafters with frozen coyotes? Coincidence that when they jumped into Canadian coyotes the market began to drop?
I'm not following, could you explain this one a little further?
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Re: Fur Market
[Re: nimzy]
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02/16/21 10:21 AM
02/16/21 10:21 AM
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Armpit, ak
Dirt
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Well we certainly don’t need $600 coyotes $465 would suffice.
Been told many times I was born a hundred years too late
At least Canada goose left us with certification and traceability. Who couldn't see this coming? 
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Fur Market
[Re: Flint Lock]
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02/16/21 10:29 AM
02/16/21 10:29 AM
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nimzy
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Nafa?
Of who I miss already. There absence is impacting the rebound.
Last edited by nimzy; 02/16/21 10:33 AM.
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Re: Fur Market
[Re: Marty B]
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02/16/21 11:40 AM
02/16/21 11:40 AM
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walleye101
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trapper
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Did you see the video of Groenwalds facility stacked to the rafters with frozen coyotes? Coincidence that when they jumped into Canadian coyotes the market began to drop?
I'm not following, could you explain this one a little further? As discussed on other recent threads in how they have dominated the coon market. High volume, mechanized skinning/fleshing, narrows margin per skin. Able to undercut auction prices move fur more cheaply and dominate market. Plenty of money to be made in a down market. Just saying.........
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Re: Fur Market
[Re: Flint Lock]
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02/16/21 11:52 AM
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nimzy
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I recall back in the 80s sitting at a KMMBA meeting where the then Hudson Bay rep. Sandy Sandman explained how the market had a good niche and demand for cheap goods.
Turns out producers didn’t bode well.
If we can’t learn from our mistakes. Just sayin
Last edited by nimzy; 02/16/21 11:54 AM.
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Re: Fur Market
[Re: Flint Lock]
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02/16/21 12:01 PM
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Law Dog
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Canada Goose announced last year they were going to fake fur they bought a lot of the yotes out there, yes the China knockoffs are still buying coyotes just the demand is not out there like before.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Fur Market
[Re: bodycount]
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02/16/21 10:55 PM
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Co.-Wy. part time AK.
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If all laborers get $15 an hour minimum wage as China Joe wants that will make more fur unprofitable to process. The good news here is that fur is considered an agricultural product and as such falls under different minimum wage guidelines. You can pay piece rate for work and depending upon how fast your skinner/flesher is he can make more or less than minimum wage. One of the guidelines here is that agricultural "piecework" labor cannot be engaged more than thirteen weeks of the year. This is from the U.S. Department of labor, fact sheet #12 (FLSA).
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Re: Fur Market
[Re: cohunt]
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02/17/21 12:00 AM
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Flint Lock
OP
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OP
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My first buck mink taken in 1953 sold for 42.00 with which I purchased a Remington 572 Fieldmaster and a brick of long rifles(at a local hardware store, an expensive choice no doubt) and had change left over(less than a buck but change). Today 50 of the same mink would maybe buy the same rifle and ammo. That was about the end of the period when fur was bringing fair value. Prices adjusted for inflation have since then just oscillated slowly downward. Many trappers have become proficient at catching lots of animals so have been able to make decent returns but only by industrializing their operation. That reminds me of how my grandfather used to talk of trapping skunks to provide for his family during the great depression.
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