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Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7185726
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When the sentence starts with" Dirty energy lobbyist " I think it loses all credibility.

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7185746
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I was simply trying to show an example of what the Keystone pipeline was about. I have hear the same statements from others explaining the Keystone pipeline. If is different than what I posted please show me. I am more than willing to listen. As far as dirty energy lobbyist statement I don't agree with that. I was looking for information and that part was their opinion but the facts are facts as far as I know it.

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7185762
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Canada is taking the biggest hit on the cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline. Canadian oil was destined to gulf refineries, then loaded into tankers for export. There were also a decent number of Canadians employed in the construction of the line. It was estimated that sending the oil by way of the pipeline was going to cost about $5 a barrel. Moving it by rail will be 3-4 x the cost of moving by pipeline. By truck, 6x. The Canadian producers will have to eat the extra cost if they want to remain competive.

Nothing good coming out of Bidenís EO, both here in the US or to our neighbors in the north.

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Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: Slick Pan] #7185770
02/17/21 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick Pan
I was simply trying to show an example of what the Keystone pipeline was about. I have hear the same statements from others explaining the Keystone pipeline. If is different than what I posted please show me. I am more than willing to listen. As far as dirty energy lobbyist statement I don't agree with that. I was looking for information and that part was their opinion but the facts are facts as far as I know it.


Slick pan,
Arguments can be spun any number of ways depending on the agenda, but you don't have to be buying gas made directly from Keystone pipeline oil to have oil production costs effect the price of gasoline at the pump.

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7185782
02/17/21 12:23 AM
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Overall I have found the Canadian people to be much nicer than folks in the US. They also have some very good food. The benefit for moving Canadian oil thru the US was very little to US population and all to benefit Canada as stated above. I think we should always put the US first as Trump always harped on and I agree with him. Stopping the pipeline benefits us as I see it. I have eye witnessed what oil can do to the environment .In Montana we had a pipe break under one of our major rivers because it was not maintained. Fault lied with the oil company. I am about drilling for oil but you have to protect the environment also. To many environmental failures handling oil I have seen in my lifetime.

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Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7185790
02/17/21 12:31 AM
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Paid $2.09 tonight at Costco

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: white marlin] #7185797
02/17/21 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by white marlin
hope is goes to $8.00 per gallon...SOON!


Yes, Mee too. If it hits $8.00 a gallon then I will be able to buy it just off the Dividends from my Oil Stock.


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Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7185833
02/17/21 01:38 AM
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Can someone tell me why Canada canít refine their own dirty oil and send the gasoline to us?

Here is another question, if the pipeline is so safe and would produce all those jobs why didnít Canada run the pipeline across their country to Lake Superior and then let the tankers haul it?

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7185883
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The pipe line may be reasonably safe, but Gordon Lightfoot has a nice song you should listen to. 1/5 of the worlds fresh water exists in the Great Lakes. The fight for 5 miles of pipeline under the Straights of Mackinaw have been raging for years. Run the pipe to the west coast of Canada, to the Pacific.


your only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: beeman] #7185886
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Originally Posted by beeman
Can someone tell me why Canada canít refine their own dirty oil and send the gasoline to us?


because their politicians were nuttier than OURS; until recently, that is...now we've caught up.


"necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." William Pitt the Younger
Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7187126
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Never forget about the federal, state and even sometimes local taxes on gas I would bet the national average tax on gas is 40 cents a gallon. Still the biggest mover is supply and demand and our good friends at OPEC.

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7187165
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$2.47 here


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Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: WyFurHarvesters] #7187204
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Originally Posted by WyFurHarvesters
Never forget about the federal, state and even sometimes local taxes on gas I would bet the national average tax on gas is 40 cents a gallon. Still the biggest mover is supply and demand and our good friends at OPEC.

In Pa, itís .75 cents a gallon combined tax. We win the Gold medal for gas taxation.

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7187273
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239 here today up 8 cents this week.

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7187632
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Gas prices will soon go up more with the freeze in Texas.

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7187764
02/18/21 11:52 AM
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$2.49 here. Not that long ago it was $1.99. MSM blaming it on all the below normal weather we've been having. Wanna bet when it warms up, the price won't drop, but will still keep going up?


Meghan Markle: 1st woman in history to turn a prince into a frog.
Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: Trapper7] #7187804
02/18/21 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
$2.49 here. Not that long ago it was $1.99. MSM blaming it on all the below normal weather we've been having. Wanna bet when it warms up, the price won't drop, but will still keep going up?


Yes, MSM is where a lot of folks (some on this site) go to get their news laundered. "Nonsense, The rise in gas prices since the election couldn't possibly have anything to do with Biden."

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7187808
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2.59 A gal. here next to Iowa

Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7187822
02/18/21 12:34 PM
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Read somewhere that moving oil via pipeline was the most secure way to move it. Safer than by train or transport trucks.


Meghan Markle: 1st woman in history to turn a prince into a frog.
Re: Gas is a jumping !! [Re: jbyrd63] #7187837
02/18/21 12:42 PM
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Regular gas is Up to $2.99 today in snowstorming central PA!!!

Paid $2.36 Jan 4th!!

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