Re: How's Your Bee's
[Re: yukonjeff]
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02/18/21 01:26 AM
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Just in time for the bears to show up for their first big meal of spring Suppose to get in the 30s here next week. Hoping to get a general count of dead outs then. Still a long ways to go before they are out of the woods here as well. Those cold snaps in March sure can kill a lot of bees around here. You're probably a solid month beyond that up there. I put a couple hives in single deeps just to see how or if that works this far north. They were both alive a couple weeks ago anyhow.
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Re: How's Your Bee's
[Re: yukonjeff]
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02/18/21 01:57 AM
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I have lost 7 out of 12 hives so far. On any day over 50F they are out gathering pollen from various tiny flowered blooming weeds. Not sure if they get any nectar from them.
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Re: How's Your Bee's
[Re: yukonjeff]
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02/18/21 05:31 AM
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Lost my only hive. During deep wet frozen snow the mice chewed threw my block on the landing pad that was supposed to keep them out. Ordering new this spring.
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Re: How's Your Bee's
[Re: Jiggamitch]
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02/18/21 08:15 AM
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Bought a hive last year as I was going to remove barn wall and remove bees to put in hive. They were not removable. Now I have a hive and no bees. What time of year should I order a colony? You need to order now as most commercial sellers will be sold out by the time warm weather hits. My brother waited to late last year but got lucky and found place that had packages left. This year he already has his order in for a nuc and a 9lb package.
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Re: How's Your Bee's
[Re: gregh]
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02/18/21 10:25 AM
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I had six hives going into winter. Checked them about a month ago . Had lost one double deep, Added dry sugar on top of the rest. Others seem OK, they are melting snow off top of hives, too cold to inspect. I am wintering a 5 frame nuc, Was strong in fall. Put lots of extra feed on, Hope they make it. .Several local guys had some early dead outs around here. I agree , I don't think the cold hurts as much as starving and mites. Are any using oxyilic acid treatment, I haven't as of yet. Use strips. Any thoughts, and what were the results. Good thread. Bee Safe. old243
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Re: How's Your Bee's
[Re: old243]
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02/18/21 10:32 AM
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I had six hives going into winter. Checked them about a month ago . Had lost one double deep, Added dry sugar on top of the rest. Others seem OK, they are melting snow off top of hives, too cold to inspect. I am wintering a 5 frame nuc, Was strong in fall. Put lots of extra feed on, Hope they make it. .Several local guys had some early dead outs around here. I agree , I don't think the cold hurts as much as starving and mites. Are any using oxyilic acid treatment, I haven't as of yet. Use strips. Any thoughts, and what were the results. Good thread. Bee Safe. old243 Oxyilic acid is what my mentor and I use. My bees were feral I caught and hygienic showing very few mites at every check so I only smoked them once going into winter as a precaution. Honestly in to new and inexperienced to have an informed personal opinion so defer to my friendly neighbors and mentors opinions and methods. Seems to have really shortened my learning curve and been very successful so far.
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Re: How's Your Bee's
[Re: yukonjeff]
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02/18/21 10:50 AM
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Province farm: Consider changing to the alcohol wash instead of the powder sugar testing. The sugar is far less reliable....especially on humid days when the sugar clumps. Tooltime: Unfortunately, that's the going rate nowadays. It's the same reason I decided years ago to never buy bees again and figure out how to make my own. Pretty soon they're like barn cats and you have more than you want to deal with. Many people just keep buying bees every spring. But that's how one needs to start off. A spendy start up for sure. It's kind of like trapping in the beginning (or nowadays)....Spend $100 to make $50...or zero. Bee survival is almost all about the mites. We've all gotten behind on them and paid the price. Worst thing one can do it blame it on something else, though. Mine get treated 3 times per year minimum (and what most universities recommend now), but I have a few commercial guys around me so a fair amount of bee mingling going on. Yukon Jeff: I'm interested to hear how your bees fair up there. My buddy lives in Kenny Lake. He says nobody tries to overwinter bees around him (best of his knowledge). Maybe I'll try and smuggle some bees to him the next time I'm up if yours work out
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Re: How's Your Bee's
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02/18/21 11:39 AM
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If I pull this winter off ,I will go all in on singles next year. I managed in singles this past summer season and like it more than doubles now.
BP My bees have not flown since October. Won't fly until around April 15. You guys should have a maple flow starting soon I would think. Be good times for a beekeeper.
Treat your hives or the mites will overpower your bees during winter, they either starve out or mites get them . The cold don't effect them. My daughter lives In Delta Jct and she just killed her bees every year due to the extreme temps.
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Re: How's Your Bee's
[Re: gregh]
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02/18/21 12:16 PM
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If you have mites and do not treat you are going to have dead bees eventually, plus all of the diseases that the mites bring to the hives. Oxyclic acid is a good treatment for the brood less period in the winter but is pretty much useless any other time of the year. Start treating for mites as soon as you pull the honey in the spring and treat every 4 to 6 weeks with something until winter. If you can rotate chemical uses. Randy Oliver has been testing Oxalic Acid on sponges in the hives for summer (and honey flow) times of the year with really impressive results. The sponge sits between the brood chambers for 42 days. He has a recent youtube video on it and will have more to come. I suspect it will be the next commercially available mite treatment....although easy enough to make on your own. I plan on testing it myself this year prior to the typical brood less application (which here isn't until November most years). Beav, I suspect that's the case up in those parts. People "think" its the cold when in reality its the mites. Less room for error in those regions as mites decrease the lifespan of the winter bees, thus virtually any mite load on a LONG winter ends up with dead hives. This is why I'm so interested in Yukon Jeffs posting. It's something I "suspected" but sounds like he may prove me correct ( for once in my life)
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