Re: Gas is a jumping !!
[Re: jbyrd63]
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02/17/21 12:06 AM
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Canada is taking the biggest hit on the cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline. Canadian oil was destined to gulf refineries, then loaded into tankers for export. There were also a decent number of Canadians employed in the construction of the line. It was estimated that sending the oil by way of the pipeline was going to cost about $5 a barrel. Moving it by rail will be 3-4 x the cost of moving by pipeline. By truck, 6x. The Canadian producers will have to eat the extra cost if they want to remain competive.
Nothing good coming out of Biden’s EO, both here in the US or to our neighbors in the north.
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Re: Gas is a jumping !!
[Re: Slick Pan]
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02/17/21 12:15 AM
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I was simply trying to show an example of what the Keystone pipeline was about. I have hear the same statements from others explaining the Keystone pipeline. If is different than what I posted please show me. I am more than willing to listen. As far as dirty energy lobbyist statement I don't agree with that. I was looking for information and that part was their opinion but the facts are facts as far as I know it. Slick pan, Arguments can be spun any number of ways depending on the agenda, but you don't have to be buying gas made directly from Keystone pipeline oil to have oil production costs effect the price of gasoline at the pump.
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Re: Gas is a jumping !!
[Re: jbyrd63]
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02/17/21 12:23 AM
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Overall I have found the Canadian people to be much nicer than folks in the US. They also have some very good food. The benefit for moving Canadian oil thru the US was very little to US population and all to benefit Canada as stated above. I think we should always put the US first as Trump always harped on and I agree with him. Stopping the pipeline benefits us as I see it. I have eye witnessed what oil can do to the environment .In Montana we had a pipe break under one of our major rivers because it was not maintained. Fault lied with the oil company. I am about drilling for oil but you have to protect the environment also. To many environmental failures handling oil I have seen in my lifetime.
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Re: Gas is a jumping !!
[Re: white marlin]
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02/17/21 12:40 AM
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hope is goes to $8.00 per gallon...SOON! Yes, Mee too. If it hits $8.00 a gallon then I will be able to buy it just off the Dividends from my Oil Stock.
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Re: Gas is a jumping !!
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02/17/21 06:17 AM
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The pipe line may be reasonably safe, but Gordon Lightfoot has a nice song you should listen to. 1/5 of the worlds fresh water exists in the Great Lakes. The fight for 5 miles of pipeline under the Straights of Mackinaw have been raging for years. Run the pipe to the west coast of Canada, to the Pacific.
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Re: Gas is a jumping !!
[Re: WyFurHarvesters]
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02/17/21 10:51 PM
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Never forget about the federal, state and even sometimes local taxes on gas I would bet the national average tax on gas is 40 cents a gallon. Still the biggest mover is supply and demand and our good friends at OPEC. In Pa, it’s .75 cents a gallon combined tax. We win the Gold medal for gas taxation.
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Re: Gas is a jumping !!
[Re: jbyrd63]
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02/18/21 11:52 AM
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$2.49 here. Not that long ago it was $1.99. MSM blaming it on all the below normal weather we've been having. Wanna bet when it warms up, the price won't drop, but will still keep going up?
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Gas is a jumping !!
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02/18/21 12:16 PM
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$2.49 here. Not that long ago it was $1.99. MSM blaming it on all the below normal weather we've been having. Wanna bet when it warms up, the price won't drop, but will still keep going up? Yes, MSM is where a lot of folks (some on this site) go to get their news laundered. "Nonsense, The rise in gas prices since the election couldn't possibly have anything to do with Biden."
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Re: Gas is a jumping !!
[Re: jbyrd63]
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02/18/21 12:34 PM
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Read somewhere that moving oil via pipeline was the most secure way to move it. Safer than by train or transport trucks.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Gas is a jumping !!
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02/18/21 12:42 PM
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Regular gas is Up to $2.99 today in snowstorming central PA!!!
Paid $2.36 Jan 4th!!
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