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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7187943
02/18/21 01:58 PM
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I checked the archives and seen how to post pictures but I can't post the other one.

Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7187944
02/18/21 01:58 PM
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That's a great looking wolf muskrat 411. I like the colors

Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7188110
02/18/21 04:17 PM
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Thanks for posting.

I might order these for next weeks wolf season:

https://www.snareshop.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SNARE605

Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7188184
02/18/21 04:53 PM
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Nice video, thanks for sharing. I figure he would use a stick for a snare support. I mean what's wrong with a stick?


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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7188238
02/18/21 05:24 PM
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The drill bit is 7/64 and the wire is 12 gauge. What really makes it work well is the screw on snare support. Most big trap supply dealers have them. I think they call them twist on snare supports.
If you watch me closely after I drill the hole in the tree, I use my bull nose pliers to firmly insert the support wire in the tree.
In short it is a system approach.
If you use different size wire make sure the drill bit is one size smaller than the wire.

Fur quality, for any given species the window of primness is very short, like less than a month in most cases. Trapping season are more about people control and not so much about the fur resource. I am after the wolves because like Boco mentioned it is all about management and keeping some control of the predators.
I also like the challenge that wolves give me, they are very quick learners and will quickly point out any mistakes I make.
I liken wolves to a street gang, they go around beating up everything in they territories but once you catch a few the thugs breakdown pretty quick.
Also it is my experience that pups and case off old wolves make many mistakes and are the easiest to catch, the real challenge is catching the whole pack.
Jim

Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: The Beav] #7188360
02/18/21 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by nimzy
Beav ur old school. U know thinking productive trapping ends at thanksgiving.
Comparing Iowa coyotes to wolves is like comparing October rats to February rats.


Not really Nimzy. You are trying to compare rats to long haired critters and that Isn't any comparison. My buddy quite trapping Kansas coyotes about a month ago because he was only skinning half of what he caught because they were starting to break.

So lets look at WI coyotes compared to WI wolves. The last coyotes I caught were In late Jan. 5 out of the 20 were hardly worth skinning. My buddy just quit on Monday and out of his last 10 coyotes caught at the end of Jan and Into Feb he only brought 4 home. So is that a better comparison. But of course we haven't seen any wolves yet. So we will have to wait and see.


I’m not comparing anything! I simply asked people who catch wolves when they are worth trapping.

Apologies to gibb, nice video as usual.

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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7188384
02/18/21 06:56 PM
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Thank you for sharing.

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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7188584
02/18/21 09:33 PM
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Great video, very cool country. I'd love to run a some wolf equipment there.

Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7189005
02/19/21 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gibb


Fur quality, for any given species the window of primness is very short, like less than a month in most cases. Trapping season are more about people control and not so much about the fur resource. I am after the wolves because like Boco mentioned it is all about management and keeping some control of the predators.
I also like the challenge that wolves give me, they are very quick learners and will quickly point out any mistakes I make.
I liken wolves to a street gang, they go around beating up everything in they territories but once you catch a few the thugs breakdown pretty quick.
Also it is my experience that pups and case off old wolves make many mistakes and are the easiest to catch, the real challenge is catching the whole pack.
Jim


Thanks for the feedback. Yes I agree that peak prime is a short window. And harvest has a combination of access to resources. I am curious as why you go out in late February when conditions seem harsh? Do you pursue them all along or is there an advantage in going now?

Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: nimzy] #7189161
02/19/21 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by nimzy
Gibb. It has been insinuated on another thread that wolves are past prime in February. It would be interesting to hear from yourself and others who actually harvest wolves on this topic.


Well,nimzy around here you can trap them into March for sure and the pelts look fine. Never had one graded, because I never was dumb enough to send one to a canadian auction. We have a soft environment. Like coyotes you can catch nasty ones any time during the season. You can trap coyotes clear into March too. They will look fine and will sell fine. Most of my coyotes have never made a ride to furbuyer or canadian auction either.


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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7189165
02/19/21 12:00 PM
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Thanks.Very interesting.


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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7189193
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Thanks for sharing the video!


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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: nimzy] #7189219
02/19/21 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nimzy
Originally Posted by gibb


Fur quality, for any given species the window of primness is very short, like less than a month in most cases. Trapping season are more about people control and not so much about the fur resource. I am after the wolves because like Boco mentioned it is all about management and keeping some control of the predators.
I also like the challenge that wolves give me, they are very quick learners and will quickly point out any mistakes I make.
I liken wolves to a street gang, they go around beating up everything in they territories but once you catch a few the thugs breakdown pretty quick.
Also it is my experience that pups and case off old wolves make many mistakes and are the easiest to catch, the real challenge is catching the whole pack.
Jim


Thanks for the feedback. Yes I agree that peak prime is a short window. And harvest has a combination of access to resources. I am curious as why you go out in late February when conditions seem harsh? Do you pursue them all along or is there an advantage in going now?



When the lake freezes solid in front of my house it is just over 9 miles to my western boundary of my trapline, I have a big lake that runs up roughly the middle of my trapline here in North Bay. With the price of fur being what it is, it makes no sense to go hard in the fall and burn 5 times as much gas to catch fur. I can jump on my snow machine and in 20 minutes I am on my line. Plus my access is 10 times better going in Jan/Feb than in the fall.

The wolves here are smaller as their main prey is deer in the winter, not something really taxidermy worthy, the best bang for me is to have dressed and sell them as wall hangers. I probably should start sooner but once the beaver and marten/fisher are caught it gives me a reason to get out there.
You have to know your market and the value of what you have, if I ship the wolves I would be lucky to receive $60 for them. Picture a small wolf with brown, black ,grey colors. They do make good ruffs on collars or wall hangers.
Jim

Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7190182
02/20/21 09:46 AM
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Makes sense. Glad to see your adaptability allows you to take advantage of difficult situations. Most trappers never have those opportunities or face those challenges.

Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7190353
02/20/21 12:41 PM
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Do you always run the same size loop, and height off the ground? You're thread is especially intriguing, since people will be hanging cable in Wi next week for the wolf season. Our wolves might be smaller than yours, I'm not sure

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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7190355
02/20/21 12:44 PM
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Nice video Gibb, thanks! I like your system, definitely worth trying out. The drill looks like it would save a lot of wire and wrapping - and time. Appreciate the ride-along.

Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7190365
02/20/21 12:54 PM
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Oh! Nimzy your other question " When are wolves worth trapping?" Unless you have a real lucrative market, mostly never. To much time,for little return. The only time they made money here was when I caught them running marten (money) line.


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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7190397
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Thanks dirt. .I will rephrase, what makes a better wall hanger an October or February wolf?
I’ve seen some wolves from the last go round here in October and it’s almost, we’ll never mind. I’m pretty sure the last of February isn’t probably ideal but itd be my preference over October and even early November.

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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: nimzy] #7190405
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Originally Posted by nimzy
Thanks dirt. .I will rephrase, what makes a better wall hanger an October or February wolf?


Here, February.


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Re: How I hang Wolf snares [Re: gibb] #7190413
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Thanks again dirt. I added to the above post.
I can’t see any Wisconsin wolves ever hitting the fur market.
They (trophies). Used to be the pets of our dnr. With that current lawsuit I’m unsure.

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