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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: AJE]
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02/21/21 01:01 PM
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michigan,USA
seniortrap
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Without a doubt their in there. We fought them when trying to get a Fur harvesters license established back in 1985. Too many opinions with out knowledge of which they speak. And the DNR of Michigan continues to employ them as their basis for knowledge. One who recently left as Director of the Michigan DNR, went to Michigan State University as an appointed professor. There to ram his theory down young peoples brain. Appointed by our wonderful governor Gretchen Whitman (D). Who thinks that all restaurant businesses can open at 25% and do well.  
Vietnam--1967 46th. Const./Combat Engineers
"Chaotic action is preferable to orderly inaction."
"After the first shot, all plans go out the window!"
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: AJE]
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02/21/21 01:08 PM
02/21/21 01:08 PM
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adam m
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I say yes. There's been valid concern with NM's game commissioner which was appointed by the governor. Several Hunting lands have been closed with no prior notice. There's a push with bills to completely overhaul G&F including changing its name. There's plenty of anti proposals being snuck into other bills too. One example is to make catching or possessing ANY wildlife illegal without a license/permit. That includes bugs, shed antlers, snails, mice etc... honestly there's so much anti bills this year I can't keep up. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2021/02/full-40155-86875-screenshot_20210221_100627_samsung_internet.jpg)
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: AJE]
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02/21/21 01:18 PM
02/21/21 01:18 PM
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West Michigan
Getting There
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I am sure there are! A great deal of the DNR employees do not hunt, fish, or trap. You see what happened in TX. I am sure most of the people that spend a lot of time outdoors could have handled themselves better. IMO
To Old
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: AJE]
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02/21/21 01:23 PM
02/21/21 01:23 PM
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Alaska and Washington State
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Well, let's see; many years ago I took some cat skins to get tagged in Washington State. I met an enforcement agent at a local state-run fish hatchery, she tagged them there.
She opened the conversation with the statement "I don't think trapping bobcats should be allowed".
An Anti? Obviously.
I did reminded her that I paid her salary; it was a rather cold encounter. And they wonder why we don't trust their agencies. They really aren't that bright.
"My life is better than your vacation"
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: AJE]
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02/21/21 01:31 PM
02/21/21 01:31 PM
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Western Shore Delaware
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Many of the DNR class "instructors" are not qualified themselves with real experience(s) other than what they learned from a book.
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with."
Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: N.Roberts]
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02/21/21 01:37 PM
02/21/21 01:37 PM
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HayDay
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Yep -without a doubt.
There is a cool little school in SW MO with a wildlife program that is going to send some outstanding new professionals into the field.... And a lot of other fields as well.
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: Wingshot]
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02/21/21 02:02 PM
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Garden,Michigan
Buck (Zandra)
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Had a heated discussion with a state wildlife biologist who was doing a Bald Eagle presentation at an outdoor show a couple years back. She was maybe 22? and she kept repeating that eagles are strictly fish eaters. Challenges came from folks in the crowd and she became very condescending in her replies and stuck to her guns that the raptor ONLY eats fish. I was searching through my album on my phone the whole time until I found the series of pics that I took of a pair of mature bald eagles feeding on a deer carcass. They fed on it for a few days in fact. Her reply? “That is certainly nothing more than an anomaly.” I’m convinced this young thing has a future in politics. That's funny,because the same thing happened to me over a allegedly "eagle expert" that worked for the feds.When I told her I watched them feed on fox,coyote,and beaver carcasses in back of my house she as much called me a liar.When I told her then there's a whole lot of liars in our area because other people driving down our road watched them too.Then she said something was wrong with them.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: traprjohn]
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02/21/21 02:19 PM
02/21/21 02:19 PM
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Southern Ohio
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. They always seem to jump out of the bushes ten at a time to catch you doing something wrong, but when you got poachers shooting deer in your fields, there no where to be found Have you written their boss’s to let THEM know bout their staff? We usually rally a few dozen folks to write the higher ups. Then it’s often looked into. Just saying. No I did not. I had the local Sheriff take care of it. He caught them and punished accordingly.
“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.”
— Thomas Paine
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: Ave]
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02/21/21 02:32 PM
02/21/21 02:32 PM
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Southern Ohio
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Half the game wardens I see around are dressed like swat officers. They sure have the big boy mentality. Makes them a pleasure to deal with. They always seem to jump out of the bushes ten at a time to catch you doing something wrong, but when you got poachers shooting deer in your fields, there no where to be found. Another government bureaucracy that needs thinned. I haven’t seen a grouse around here in 20 years but the state don’t care. As long as they get all the non resident hunters to buy the permits and license. There happy Not to mention they recently raised the prices on our resident licenses and tags. Seems to me like they are making money any way they can, and won’t put it to good use for us sportsmen. Heck, they charged us 3 dollars a spot to apply in the beaver/ otter lottery this year, and of the zone they gave me, half of it was actually private land. An elderly landowner in the next county over a few years ago had a beaver problem. They plugged up the creek, built a lodge on the bank and water was backing up in the pasture fields. They call the local game warden in hopes he would do something. He pulls in looks over and tells them to shoot them and hops in his truck and leaves. I feel he could of at least took the time to put them in contact with a trapper. My buddy leased the farm and I went out and took care of them. They was very happy because they was losing there horse pasture. It just sad that as much as there making all the new trucks four wheelers and boats and the can’t take 10 minutes to help someone.
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“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.”
— Thomas Paine
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: Ohiowoodchuck]
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02/21/21 03:01 PM
02/21/21 03:01 PM
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Half the game wardens I see around are dressed like swat officers. They sure have the big boy mentality. Makes them a pleasure to deal with. They always seem to jump out of the bushes ten at a time to catch you doing something wrong, but when you got poachers shooting deer in your fields, there no where to be found. Another government bureaucracy that needs thinned. I haven’t seen a grouse around here in 20 years but the state don’t care. As long as they get all the non resident hunters to buy the permits and license. There happy X2!!.....again.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: AJE]
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02/21/21 03:05 PM
02/21/21 03:05 PM
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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Only YOU can change whats going on in your state. Do you go to annual DNR public meetings/hearings? Of course you dont. Do you participate in public surveys? No way. Do you encourage your outdoor-interested kids to pursue a career with a wildlife agency? Heck no.
Most of yall just want to sit around and gripe and do nothing but offer your uninforned opinions about WHY things are like they are. Misery likes company and yall are def not alone.
Handling this about like you handle other issues facing hunters and trappers in your state? Someone else can do it....yep!
Thank God For Your Blessings!
Never Half-Arse Anything!
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#7191365
02/21/21 03:08 PM
02/21/21 03:08 PM
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Western Shore Delaware
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Only YOU can change whats going on in your state. Do you go to annual DNR public meetings/hearings? Of course you dont. Do you participate in public surveys? No way. Do you encourage your outdoor-interested kids to pursue a career with a wildlife agency? Heck no.
Most of yall just want to sit around and gripe and do nothing but offer your uninforned opinions about WHY things are like they are. Misery likes company and yall are def not alone.
Handling this about like you handle other issues facing hunters and trappers in your state? Someone else can do it....yep! Alot of truth said there. :-(
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with."
Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: SJA]
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02/21/21 03:17 PM
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JLH
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Re: Do you think many antis work for state DNRs?
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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02/21/21 03:17 PM
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Only YOU can change whats going on in your state. Do you go to annual DNR public meetings/hearings? Of course you dont. Do you participate in public surveys? No way. Do you encourage your outdoor-interested kids to pursue a career with a wildlife agency? Heck no.
Most of yall just want to sit around and gripe and do nothing but offer your uninforned opinions about WHY things are like they are. Misery likes company and yall are def not alone.
Handling this about like you handle other issues facing hunters and trappers in your state? Someone else can do it....yep! Truth.
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