Re: Making primers
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Seen a tour of the Federal ammo manufacturing plant on a shooting show they showed the primer process it seems a little static electricity could make a guy go boom pretty easy I’d work smaller batches.
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Re: Making primers
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if you own a smoke pole , caps are still going for a fair price of about 6 dollars the hundred I pick up a pack each time I see them at the store now
if it needs to be dead I got ammo
if we are going to play , I got a smoke pole and caps if I get hard up there is 777 at most stores yet
sure hoping I can get some play 22lr I hate to use what I can't replace.
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Re: Making primers
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777? btw it is possible to reload 22lrs just
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Re: Making primers
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AKA I have not tried it but there are kits, including priming compound and a bullet mold to do it. would need a fast powder if you dont want to use blackpowder or a substitute. maybe titewad, red dot, bullseye or something similar. a pound would load a big bunch of them
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Re: Making primers
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So I found a few 100 count boxes of 209 primers, $10.00 each. They are for muzzle loaders, I have no 209 ignited muzzy's. Could they be used in shotgun shell reloading? If not, could they be used like Dave Canterbury does with black powder 12 gauge reloads? Or should I just buy for trading stock? I know a lot of ?? Sorry...Have not bought them, it a hardware close to my Post Mill that I stop at a lot.
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Re: Making primers
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777? btw it is possible to reload 22lrs just Triple Seven is one of the most common black powder substitutes made by Hogdon it is a little harder to get lit that real black but not so much that a #11 cap can't get you good ignition. if you don't have any other powder it would work in a rifle , pistol or shotgun shell but it must be a compressed load so basically you measure where your bullet seats to , and fill with powder to just above that point then seat the bullet. use natural lube on your bullets also the US army tested 45acp with black powder when they didn't know if they could get enough supply of smokeless , it works , but you have to clean and you might only get a few mags before needing to clean. getting a shell lit is still the biggest issue without primers around.
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Re: Making primers
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if you own a smoke pole , caps are still going for a fair price of about 6 dollars the hundred I pick up a pack each time I see them at the store now
if it needs to be dead I got ammo
if we are going to play , I got a smoke pole and caps if I get hard up there is 777 at most stores yet
sure hoping I can get some play 22lr I hate to use what I can't replace.
Got lucky at a Walmart today and picked up (2) 333rd boxes of Winchester 22lr hollow points and (2) boxes of 12 gauge dove loads.
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Re: Making primers
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I was at Walmart last night to pick up some other stuff , they had a decent selection of turkey loads 1 1/2 oz of #4 or #5 in a 2 3/4 10 rounds in a box 4.94 a box which really isn't bad at all.
I am seeing enough 12 ga that it might not make for shooting clay but I think most any one with a 12ga should not be hurting for pest control and 2 legged pest control even if you have to use 1 1/2 ounce of #4
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Re: Making primers
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There's a store north of here that gets a trickle of ammo and powder but hasn't had primers in over a month. He saves some to sell with guns. He also has black powder.
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Re: Making primers
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strike anywhere matches, they are getting harder to find. I haven't done it, but there are all sorts of videos on youtube about it. I find plenty of strike anywhere matches where wood stoves and accessories are sold. Our TSC sells them.
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Re: Making primers
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let an opened box of strike anywhere match's sit in a cupboard for 3-4 years and they wont strike anyplace. I dont know anything about this stuff but it has to be better than match heads. https://sharpshooter-22lr-reloader.myshopify.com/products/prime-all-repriming-compoundI think putting loaded ammo in a vacuum bag will extend shelf life tremendously. Even match head ammo. Though I have no idea why you would fool with match heads
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Re: Making primers
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So I found a few 100 count boxes of 209 primers, $10.00 each. They are for muzzle loaders, I have no 209 ignited muzzy's. Could they be used in shotgun shell reloading? If not, could they be used like Dave Canterbury does with black powder 12 gauge reloads? Or should I just buy for trading stock? I know a lot of ?? Sorry...Have not bought them, it a hardware close to my Post Mill that I stop at a lot. 209 muzzy primers are "cooler" than standard primers. It's meant to prevent the powder/load from shifting forward during ignition. I would use them if that's all I had but you are going to be guessing on load data. There was an old thread on H-W that went into detail about muzzleloader accuracy and different 209 primers. My googlefoo is not working today but this thread gives a good comparison in the second post down. https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,224326.msg2984327.html#msg2984327 Looks like someone compared primers/no powder moving a lead pellet or something similar.
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Re: Making primers
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let an opened box of strike anywhere match's sit in a cupboard for 3-4 years and they wont strike anyplace. I dont know anything about this stuff but it has to be better than match heads. https://sharpshooter-22lr-reloader.myshopify.com/products/prime-all-repriming-compoundI think putting loaded ammo in a vacuum bag will extend shelf life tremendously. Even match head ammo. Though I have no idea why you would fool with match heads ammo cans with good seals and in a climate controlled house definitely do , vacuum bags can't hurt 22 ammo is not sealed like centerfire ammo , 1 year in a tool box in a truck can take ammo in factory box from good to jam-o-matic I did it unfortunately one year shot about 1500 and had about 1500 left in the tool box a year , finished them up in a bolt action because they were just frustrating to not make a hole mag in a semi auto without a failure to eject
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Re: Making primers
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i have some winchester super x 22 i think my grandad bought in the 60's. one full brick and one almost full brick. it still works fine in my semi's. my dad gave it to me a couple years ago. he had been using it to protect his chickens. got some green boxes of thunderbolt 22 in my pickup. it has been in there at least ten years. it still works too.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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