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Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7192741
02/22/21 09:19 PM
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Those pics of the double rear foot are crazy, how the heck.. shocked

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7192843
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i caught a possum by the tail in a tire set. haven't used a tire set since

Re: First double foot catch [Re: wrh1971] #7193215
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Originally Posted by wrh1971
i caught a possum by the tail in a tire set. haven't used a tire set since

That's nuts! how the heck, maybe it was able to pull its small feet out? No clue.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7193272
02/23/21 11:55 AM
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I’m thinking of two possibilities. First one - the coyote had a foot on each side of the trap on the lever/jaw junction. When the trap fired his feet rode the levers up enough to only catch the toes.
Second one - his feet were on the free jaw and when fired the trap only caught the toes.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7193431
02/23/21 02:59 PM
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Here's my hunch. Both feet were just inside the jaws but close to, if not directly over the fulcrum (balancing point of the "teeter totter'),,,,, the lever ( trap pan) of your "totter" starts at the hold down point of the jaw and extends out into the center of the base and continues to the end of the pan closest to the loose jaw ,,,,,,,,with a pan tension of whatever poundage you set, you are increasing (over gravity) the amount of weight it will take to have the lever (pan) lift the short end of the "totter" and release the/or spring the trap. Now with all that said I hunch that the coyote shifted its weight ever so slightly toward the long side of the "teeter totter" enough to compensate for your added pan tension and the jaws were faster than the coyote's reaction time so he took a ride home with you. Isn't that what pan tension is supposed to do by allowing smaller weighted creatures to wrestle on top of the lever (pan) and NOT spring the trap. Not every animal step is exacting the same weight on the soil beneath it, so when you reach the "straw" that exceeds the camel's carrying capacity, it breaks or in this case it fires the trap........................................... my take .... the mike

Re: First double foot catch [Re: Wife] #7193649
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Originally Posted by Wife
Here's my hunch. Both feet were just inside the jaws but close to, if not directly over the fulcrum (balancing point of the "teeter totter'),,,,, the lever ( trap pan) of your "totter" starts at the hold down point of the jaw and extends out into the center of the base and continues to the end of the pan closest to the loose jaw ,,,,,,,,with a pan tension of whatever poundage you set, you are increasing (over gravity) the amount of weight it will take to have the lever (pan) lift the short end of the "totter" and release the/or spring the trap. Now with all that said I hunch that the coyote shifted its weight ever so slightly toward the long side of the "teeter totter" enough to compensate for your added pan tension and the jaws were faster than the coyote's reaction time so he took a ride home with you. Isn't that what pan tension is supposed to do by allowing smaller weighted creatures to wrestle on top of the lever (pan) and NOT spring the trap. Not every animal step is exacting the same weight on the soil beneath it, so when you reach the "straw" that exceeds the camel's carrying capacity, it breaks or in this case it fires the trap........................................... my take .... the mike


This makes so much sense to me. Thanks.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7194184
02/24/21 08:29 AM
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Congratulations dedshaut. Neat catch.

Right on Flint Hill fur. Here's couple other weird catches...
Front foot catch...his only front foot
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Tail caught Possum...
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Elbow caught Grey...
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Nose caught Possum...
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Re: First double foot catch [Re: Hern] #7194377
02/24/21 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Hern
Congratulations dedshaut. Neat catch.

Right on Flint Hill fur. Here's couple other weird catches...
Front foot catch...his only front foot
[Linked Image]

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Tail caught Possum...
[Linked Image]

Elbow caught Grey...
[Linked Image]

Nose caught Possum...
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wow! those are some super crazy catches, thanks for sharing.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7194556
02/24/21 02:44 PM
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I’ve had a couple grinners by the tail but never by the nose. That’s a new one on me Hern.

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Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195039
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Caught a 2 legged coyote this year (suspect a sickle type cutter from a bean head or a windrower got him as a pup). Several 2 legged coons, a coon by the nose, skunks by the scrotum, opossums by the tail and snared a fox and this year a coyote by the mouth (Unloaded snare by the way). Never got a canine by the elbow but have caught several (9) Saw Whet owls in 220 boxes placed 4-6' above the ground and 1 in a cage trap. My boy caught a pocket gopher in a cage trap set in a hayfield. Lots of odd ones in the last 50 years............................. the mike

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195074
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Wow two legged. Haven’t seen that. Here is two more tripods I’ve caught. One missing a back leg.

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Front leg.
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Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195075
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Weird two foot catch.

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I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.

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Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195259
02/25/21 06:32 AM
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Great thread. Thanks for posting the great pics guys!


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Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195834
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Wow, this thread turned out amazing. It's crazy how a 2 legged dog could survive so long.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195846
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^^^^x2

Re: First double foot catch [Re: yoteguts] #7195966
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Originally Posted by yoteguts
Weird two foot catch.

[Linked Image]

That's nuts!

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7195997
02/25/21 08:16 PM
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[Linked Image]
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I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.

More trappin' and less yappin'.



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Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7196462
02/26/21 04:53 AM
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I've taken instruction twice from Kendall and he has a ton of pictures with double foot catches in his KO traps. Most of his sets are trench sets, which would be easier to explain than a dirthole. I run almost all stepdowns, but haven't had such a catch yet.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7196806
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Neat pictures folks.
I had some front/back foot catches, but no pics.

Re: First double foot catch [Re: dedshaut] #7197044
02/26/21 05:34 PM
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Lol Herb, I’ve had that on grinners but not yotes.




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