I don't think anyone has any problem with advancing technology, if it happens in a competative free market. What I don't like is government involvement in forcing the change by taxing one technology out of existence, while subsidizing the other to make it competative. I'd just as soon stick with my gas F150 and $1.85 gasoline, until someone can provide a better more affordable product in the free market.

That is a perfect response, walleye. If it will work it should happen because it is a good product and there is market demand.

I see it working in the cities but not the rural areas.

I see a standard battery for most brands that can be drained dropped and a charged one connected in the same or less time than filling with gas. Would avoid the long charge times.

Also a small on board pony motor to charge battery for rual folks withless charging stations and long distances.

Electric heating and ac will be hard in the batteries as will the winter cold and short daylight hours and low sun angle for solar collection.

Batteries need to come a long way but electric motors have no lag time, noise, and a lot of torque.

I've been saying for years, that someone needs to come out with a basic, no-frills, non-computerized truck like the ones built in the '70s. If they could get them to pass the emissions inspections, I think they'd sell like hotcakes to the people in this country who still have common sense. We don't want electric, we don't want complicated. We just want a vehicle that will take a licking and keep on ticking.

Exactly they don't make a truck I actually want.

I want something like my 67 jeep Kaisers.

Factory 36" tires interior I can spray out with a hose. The fold Down wind shield and removable top was fun.

So if they would make a simple modern 4x4 truck with marine grade radio and dash controls with water proof seats line x floor with drains.( steel floors are loud and get hot) . Ac and heat 3/4 ton suspension and body thick enough it won't dent like a tin can. If they would build it simple reliable and easy to work on at a 25k or so price point they couldn't make them fast enough. But they won't.

Exactly they don't make a truck I actually want.

I want something like my 67 jeep Kaisers.

Factory 36" tires interior I can spray out with a hose. The fold Down wind shield and removable top was fun.

So if they would make a simple modern 4x4 truck with marine grade radio and dash controls with water proof seats line x floor with drains.( steel floors are loud and get hot) . Ac and heat 3/4 ton suspension and body thick enough it won't dent like a tin can. If they would build it simple reliable and easy to work on at a 25k or so price point they couldn't make them fast enough. But they won't.[/quote]


Pretty sure vehicles like that are still made for use in 3rd world countries.

currently driving Dodge -- not going back to Ford. Ilike Toyota - just wish they would make something bigger and diesel. I know that our technology has come a long way and I can see electric trucks somewhere in the future, but I also know they will have citified them to the point of making them almost unusable to rural folks.

We pay for our police cars, they're cheaper than the gas chevies or dodges. And the state patrol will eventually get some too. They'll work well for extended periods of sitting on the side of the road.
My point was more that artery technology has vastly improved already. When toyota first came out with the Prius, the battery was like 400+lbs and took up the whole trunk floor. You had to use an engine hoist to replace it. Now they're tiny and much lighter. It's reasonable to think that batteries could be standardized among manufacturers, and instead of charging at a gas station you'd pull your battery out and exchange it for a fresh one. That would solve the long charge time issue.
The long charge times are certainly an issue to be solved. The city has a nissan leaf that takes 72 hours (3 days!!!!!!) to charge with 110V charger. It's ridiculous. If course with better chargers the time goes way down. In any case, there are ways to improve upon the charging time issue.

Pretty sure vehicles like that are still made for use in 3rd world countries.[/quote]


They very well may. The problem is I don't live in one of those 3rd world countries and they won't import or sell them here where I can buy them. After they don't meet epa and/or safty regulations.

I would love a new Suzuki Samurai for the farm. They won't import them for above reasons. But last time I looked they could be bought new for 12k in other countries.

More government interference.

I will go along with that.Less stuff to go wrong or break.

Pretty sure vehicles like that are still made for use in 3rd world countries.[/quote]


They very well may. The problem is I don't live in one of those 3rd world countries and they won't import or sell them here where I can buy them. After they don't meet epa and/or safty regulations.

I would love a new Suzuki Samurai for the farm. They won't import them for above reasons. But last time I looked they could be bought new for 12k in other countries.

More government interference.

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Yea,well lack of government regulations in 3rd world countries is one of the reasons people tip over when they hit 35 years old.

Absolutely!!

There's no need for computers to tell a transmission when to shift, to control interior functions operate the heater and to turn the headlights or wipers on.
Just crazy

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They very well may. The problem is I don't live in one of those 3rd world countries and they won't import or sell them here where I can buy them. After they don't meet epa and/or safty regulations.

I would love a new Suzuki Samurai for the farm. They won't import them for above reasons. But last time I looked they could be bought new for 12k in other countries.

More government interference.

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Yea,well lack of government regulations in 3rd world countries is one of the reasons people tip over when they hit 35 years old.
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They tip over cause the Gov. deems them "Insurrectionists " and you can't have opposition to those in power

And I definitely don't want the doors locking and unlocking at their whim. Not even a huge fan of power windows, but the AC is a good thing. Jumped in the bosses truck one time and had to call him on the cell because my butt was getting burned and i couldn't figure out how to turn off the heated seats - I definitely don't need anymore of that.

No,they tip over from poor nutrition,high infant mortality,parsites,and pollution(poor drinking water,and in cities poor air quality).From lack of government regulation.

I'd buy this in a heartbeat.

All that comes from too much government regulation. Thats what you get with socialism/communism.

There is a Walmart store with charging station 40 mi from here on the interstate. I've seen a couple cars charging there. This article says you can get enough charge for 20 mi. in 1 minute. I don't don't how much it costs?
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/201...arging-stations-across-US/2061559835258/