Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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02/28/21 03:10 PM
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Gary Benson
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I'd start with a new electrical panel and go modern. Electrical has come a long ways since that garage was wired. Put in twice as many outlets as you think you will need. And install plenty of different circuits. Don't want too much running on one circuit.
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Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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02/28/21 04:19 PM
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I would think those old breakers are past their sell by date. start with a new box and innards.
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Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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Does the garage have it's own power service line and meter? if so I would check the meter. What voltage do you have on the circuit that has power?
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Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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SOME older panels used the ground and neutral bar together. It will still work but no longer code. This is incorrect. The ground and neutral can only be combined in the main panel. Anything after that is considered a sub panel, and neutral and ground have to be separated.. This is correct.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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02/28/21 06:30 PM
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I rewired my fur shed myself in just followed the old wires with new wire then hooked up the new stuff and removed the old even added a outside light for unloading. Put a outside plug on a switch and wired 8 foot lights on the ceiling. I’m no electrician I just repeated what was there one wire at a time.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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Listen to those on here that know.
Rewire. Spend the money to DO IT RIGHT. Sleep better at night.
Doing this can save your house/garage from burning down with no coverage from your insurance.
I have replaced a lot of my cheap extension cords with good quality type cords , I sleep better knowing this.
Cheap investment in your home/garage. Less worries/stress.
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Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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02/28/21 08:36 PM
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Cloth wiring would keep me up at night for sure.
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Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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02/28/21 08:59 PM
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Get a new barker box and start new, get rid of that old cloth covered wire. New wire is all color coded, much easer to work with. JMO
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Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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SOME older panels used the ground and neutral bar together. It will still work but no longer code. This is incorrect. The ground and neutral can only be combined in the main panel. Anything after that is considered a sub panel, and neutral and ground have to be separated.. This is correct. Lugnut What about my statement is incorrect? 1 Some older panels DID and still have the ground bar and neutural tied together. YES they have to be seperated BY TODAYS standards to BE CODE!! Which is what I said. Will they still work tied together? YES which is what I stated. IN fact By todays code they can't be combined in the MAIN panel so the second statement is wrong for sure!! As a matter of fact looking at the type of wire in his pic I bet his neutral and ground are under the same bar !!! Heck he may not even have a ground bar in his main !! To me it is obvious one of the two breakers are bad. But with the age he should just change out the panel. Let me throw you another term I'm sure you have heard BONDED !!! Explain it to the readers as I'm sure I will get that "incorrect"
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Re: Electrical/wiring advice needed
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On main panels/service disconnects ground and neutral bus bars are bonded and ground and neutral leads can share a bus bar. This is not allowed on any sub panels downstream. Which is exactly what loosegoose explained. The ground and neutral can only be combined in the main panel. Anything after that is considered a sub panel, and neutral and ground have to be separated.
Eh...wot?
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