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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Jonnytrapper] #7200532
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Originally Posted by Jonnytrapper
Maine's is already $12.15 per hour. They will be increasing it each year from now on. Essentially giving all the min wage workers a raise each year by law. Unfortunately the rest of us aren't so lucky so as prices go up from labor we are all left with less. I'm wondering at what point the guy bagging my groceries is making the same as I am.

This is like a bad dream...but I've been awake for 4 hours. So the state can force private businesses to pay it? But the Feds cannot?


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200533
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All this will do is increase cost for everything else and leave us at the starting point again. The purchasing power per labor will remain the same in a few years time.


I would have no problem with the minimum wage being tied to an inflation index. My one gripe though is the thought that minimum wage should be a livable wage. To me minimum wage is for the completely unskilled and youth and should've be livable at 40 hours.

Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: k snow] #7200536
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Originally Posted by k snow
Low wage workers will be replaced by machines or kiosks. It will only make more people dependent on the government (Read working people).

Hades - mart already started that with the checkout machines


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: white17] #7200538
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Originally Posted by white17
Senate dropped it from the Covid relief bill 11 minutes ago

Yet the covid relief bill is still moving forward? The 3rd one..


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7200540
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Parliamentarian ruled that it could not be included.


This^^ Nancy knew this before they sent the bill up to the senate. The senate will strip it from the bill and pass it back to the house where they will not vote for it because there is no 15.00 wage. They will blame republicans in the senate for not getting what they promised to all the burger king employees that voted for the dems and then they will move on to infrastructure where they will try and hide it in that bill. Trust me when I say they have a plan and it is not a good one for most business owners. LLL


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: 330-Trapper] #7200542
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by k snow
Low wage workers will be replaced by machines or kiosks. It will only make more people dependent on the government (Read working people).

Hades - mart already started that with the checkout machines

I noticed yesterday that more folks use the self-checkout than what use the live checkers. Personally I prefer the self-checkout as well.


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200543
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There will be no stimulus checks either is my prediction. (thank God) LLL


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200545
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Yep, self checkouts are the start. Ordering kiosks at restaurants are the next step. Robotic burger flippers. The list goes on and on.

Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200548
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Just so the fries still come out hot and crispy....


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200552
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Guess what, if the minimum wage goes to $15/hr, those people will still be the lowest paid folks in the U.S.A.. On a bright note, they will all be paying taxes. Might be an eye opener for some folks when they find out they are worse off with the higher minimum wage. Taxes + Inflation = Lower Standard of Living.

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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200559
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by Jonnytrapper
Maine's is already $12.15 per hour. They will be increasing it each year from now on. Essentially giving all the min wage workers a raise each year by law. Unfortunately the rest of us aren't so lucky so as prices go up from labor we are all left with less. I'm wondering at what point the guy bagging my groceries is making the same as I am.

This is like a bad dream...but I've been awake for 4 hours. So the state can force private businesses to pay it? But the Feds cannot?



The feds can, just not the way they are trying to do it now.

Of course this is all for less than a percentage of all above board wage earners.

Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200560
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I went to a McD a couple weeks ago. The kiosks were shut down and still no inside eating. I left as I couldn't get waited on. The line of people who hadn't got what they ordered was longer than the line of people ordering.
I went to a second McD where I got gift cards to send the Grandkids for Valentines Day. The checkout gal didn't know how to do it so she had to call another employee to show her how. We're not moving forward.


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200563
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IF it passes does this mean those on social security get their income measly doubled too? I highly doubt it. I doubt it will be kept in the Senate's version. Less than 10% of things in this bill has anything to do covid relief.

Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200565
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Least you could go onto a McD...all the ones around here are drive through only.

Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: LLtrapper] #7200568
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
There will be no stimulus checks either is my prediction. (thank God) LLL


Larry, I don't see how the house will allow that to happen.

My wager would be that if there isn't direct payments the whole bill dies. Won't be the last time I'm wrong.


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7200570
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Least you could go onto a McD...all the ones around here are drive through only.

See, they're already preparing for $15 minimum wage as there's already a shortage of workers!


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200582
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Went thru a BK drive thru last week. The girl working the window had her left arm amputated at the elbow. She would take the money in a metal tray and give the change back in the tray. The girl was doing a fine job. And there's healthy folks at 100% refusing to work as unemployment pays better.


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Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: Gary Benson] #7200605
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Most jobs here are already 12-15 an hour starting pay. Tons of signs out at businesses looking for workers.

The federal minimum wage needs a bump in my opinion. Accounting for inflation it 10 was dollars an hour in 1970 and 1980. 15 is high but 10 would be acceptable.


Re: Is $15/hr minimum wage reality? [Re: trapperkeck] #7200625
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Originally Posted by trapperkeck
Guess what, if the minimum wage goes to $15/hr, those people will still be the lowest paid folks in the U.S.A.. On a bright note, they will all be paying taxes. Might be an eye opener for some folks when they find out they are worse off with the higher minimum wage. Taxes + Inflation = Lower Standard of Living.

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