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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203720
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Iím like pf itís always there properly till 10 of them is standing in the road and you total your truck. Then itís your problem. Iíve heard of a few around my area that take a deer ever now and again to feed the family. I donít have no problem in that.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Savell] #7203723
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Originally Posted by Savell
... now all the poachers need to do is steal game cameras and sell them at the pawn shop to feed the family... less blood on your britches that way... and the deer paparazzi will just buy more... stimulating the economy lol

They've been doing that already around here....a lot. I get multuple calls annually about trail camera theft.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203724
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Op got caught plain and simple then started the poor poor me deal.

I questioned Swap and resect the answers he gave and he stands out as one of the good ones. My issue with anyone is when they think their scat don't stink. I've had a ticket or 2 but my own stupid fault and i owned them. I'm human i make mistakes.

Unfortunately the younger game wardens tend to have a your guilty of something attitude and push tell they find a simple mistake. The whole you are breaking the law, not you are doing your best to comply with the law leaves folks feeling jaded.

I literally had wardens tell a bear hunt class in Nv that you will break a law and we will catch you. Shows how some feel about the folks that pay their salaries.

As someone i know once said in a dept meeting "uncle claude says we don't have to put up with this crap"

Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7203726
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Savell
... there ainít many of us good ol boys left in this world....yíall game lawmen need to go a little easier on us from time to time... might need us one day lol

Could be other way around...


... Iíd go on and die before I took help from a breeding pair of game wardens... but theyíd probably be too busy writing a citation for me dying out of season to offer help anyway lol


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Ohiowoodchuck] #7203729
03/03/21 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohiowoodchuck
Iím like pf itís always there properly till 10 of them is standing in the road and you total your truck. Then itís your problem. Iíve heard of a few around my area that take a deer ever now and again to feed the family. I donít have no problem in that.

Who's property? The people of Ohio aint buying you another vehicle because you can't avoid a deer.

And deer poaching isnt your problem, right?


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7203730
03/03/21 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
I understand that Swamp Wolf... But for every person on here who has had nothing but positive experience with wardens there is at least one, if not two, who can tell a different tale.

I had a run-in with the warden I referenced above. I was in the right... and after repeated aggressive questioning for 45 minutes he realized I was in the right and relented. The attitude of, "I know you're guilty and I'll keep hammering on that until you fold" erased any respect I had for his position. I follow the laws because I'm cheap and don't feel like giving ODWC anymore money than I have to... I've never had a wildlife violation and never plan to... But that isn't due to respect for the wardens.

After the experience I just related, and serving as a jury foreman on a wildlife case... The taste in my mouth just won't go away. Nothing personal, but the damage is done.

Mike

I hate that its like this with some GWs.


Just how it is I guess. Like I said, nothing personal.

With our ridiculous trapping regs here you spend more time trying to be @#&$ compliant than you do laying steel... It's such a hassle anymore (coupled with p!$$ poor prices) you just get a belly full and say hang it all.

Mike


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203733
03/03/21 11:20 PM
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... I know you laughed at that Swamp!


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7203735
03/03/21 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Ohiowoodchuck

I feel that way about all law enforcement.

I figured as much.

I hope you have better experiences with LE in the future.

Is that supposed to be a smart a$$ comment. Is there something wrong with my beliefs in a smaller government and less intrusion into our lives. Just because I believe there all corrupt that makes me some kind of weirdo. Just keep believing there on your side when and if this country goes to shameless. Let me know how it works.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: nvwrangler] #7203737
03/03/21 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nvwrangler
Op got caught plain and simple then started the poor poor me deal.

I questioned Swap and resect the answers he gave and he stands out as one of the good ones. My issue with anyone is when they think their scat don't stink. I've had a ticket or 2 but my own stupid fault and i owned them. I'm human i make mistakes.

Unfortunately the younger game wardens tend to have a your guilty of something attitude and push tell they find a simple mistake. The whole you are breaking the law, not you are doing your best to comply with the law leaves folks feeling jaded.

I literally had wardens tell a bear hunt class in Nv that you will break a law and we will catch you. Shows how some feel about the folks that pay their salaries.

As someone i know once said in a dept meeting "uncle claude says we don't have to put up with this crap"

There is an un-needed arrogance in a lot of people, including some GWs.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203740
03/03/21 11:25 PM
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Didnít read through 8 pages, just your initial post.
The reason heís following you is because you broke the law and he figures youíll break it again. You had traps that werenít tagged so heís going to assume other laws have been broken.
But I will say this, video every interaction with him. It will pay off in court, or in my case the judge saw the video before hand and threw my ticket out and basically told the GW if I was checked again heíd have him removed from the county. I had four straight days of video. Whether he could do that I donít know, but I havenít been checked since. In fact, that was 5-6 years ago or longer and one of the GW he enlisted to help him find bait came up on me and my boys at a State shoot and said I remember you. We talked a bit and as I was about to hand him my license he said, No need. I donít need to see your boys either. I know yíall are legal and went on making his rounds around the field. Even he disagreed with what the other GW was doing and tried to imply.
Stand up for yourself, but you also have to take the ticket for no tags. That one was on you.

Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203741
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... yeah Mike... an old timer told me once ďgame wardens take all the fun out of itĒ ... I started noticing how much I look over my shoulder even when doing nothing wrong ď that I know ofĒ ... and realized he was right

... but we still need good reasonable ones ....or else the resource would run out

... they just need to get of the nit pick ticket mentality


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203743
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Originally Posted by Ohiowoodchuck

Is that supposed to be a smart a$$ comment. Is there something wrong with my beliefs in a smaller government and less intrusion into our lives. Just because I believe there all corrupt that makes me some kind of weirdo. Just keep believing there on your side when and if this country goes to shameless. Let me know how it works.

Not at all smart. We are both entitled to our beliefs, right?


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203748
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... get out of here Swamp! ... I think Iím the only friendly fire you got left lol


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7203750
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Ohiowoodchuck
Iím like pf itís always there properly till 10 of them is standing in the road and you total your truck. Then itís your problem. Iíve heard of a few around my area that take a deer ever now and again to feed the family. I donít have no problem in that.

Who's property? The people of Ohio aint buying you another vehicle because you can't avoid a deer.

And deer poaching isnt your problem, right?

I was not on the property that the bait was on. I was on the adjoins property and legally had permission to be there. I did not have permission for the property that had the bait on it nor did either of my two feet step a foot on it. Iím glad your a game warden in Georgia. I was wanting to come there and hunt with my uncle but Iíll stay out. Iím sure a guy like you would write a ticket for my pencil lead being to short.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Savell] #7203754
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Originally Posted by Savell
... I know you laughed at that Swamp!

Which post? There is a lot here that tickles me.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Savell] #7203756
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Originally Posted by Savell
... I know you laughed at that Swamp!


Dying out of season... I chuckled pretty good at that one.

Mike


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7203760
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Ohiowoodchuck

Is that supposed to be a smart a$$ comment. Is there something wrong with my beliefs in a smaller government and less intrusion into our lives. Just because I believe there all corrupt that makes me some kind of weirdo. Just keep believing there on your side when and if this country goes to shameless. Let me know how it works.

Not at all smart. We are both entitled to our beliefs, right?

Yes you can think of me what you want. Iím a nobody just like you.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203764
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Originally Posted by Ohiowoodchuck

I was not on the property that the bait was on. I was on the adjoins property and legally had permission to be there. I did not have permission for the property that had the bait on it nor did either of my two feet step a foot on it. Iím glad your a game warden in Georgia. I was wanting to come there and hunt with my uncle but Iíll stay out. Iím sure a guy like you would write a ticket for my pencil lead being to short.

Goodness. What are you talking about? I was referring to you saying that deer were the people's property.

I could care less if you come to Ga or not.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203772
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Law enforcement is made up of people. So naturally you get all types. Some are awsum some not so much. Honestly I'm surprised how the awsum ones stay that way after day in and out of dealing with the bottom 10%. It would be easy to get jaded.

My local Conservation officers know me and are pretty cool, well most of them. One is 5'2" and a real barney fith. They no longer stop me for checks I'm always legal and few will put in the effort like my family to access the hard to get to public ground we hunt. I think they like it . They used to give the 3rd degree based on out success rates but not any longer. Now it's a wave and nod. It they stop it often to give us a tip about a hot spot or event. Mostly good guys.

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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Savell] #7203773
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Originally Posted by Savell
... yeah Mike... an old timer told me once ďgame wardens take all the fun out of itĒ ... I started noticing how much I look over my shoulder even when doing nothing wrong ď that I know ofĒ ... and realized he was right

... but we still need good reasonable ones ....or else the resource would run out

... they just need to get of the nit pick ticket mentality

The resource is running out. There isnít deer or turkeys like there use to be. There is no small game anymore. I havenít seen a grouse in 25 years. I havenít flushed a cubby of quail 20 years. But they donít care. Long as they get to play god almighty on the wildlife counsel and get a new truck and special bullet proof vest and all the cool military gear to sneak around in the bushes.


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