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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203829
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This has been fun!

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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203830
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Ohio brought more coyotes in from Texas. They was tired of all the complaints they was getting from the insurance companies about the premiums they was paying out. I saw a bull hauler at a truck stop in mid Ohio. I spoke to the truck driver myself. He said he delivers them regularly around the state. Why not have longer hunting season or allow a larger bag limit. I saw seven coyotes the other day in my buddies pasture stalking his calfís. I got one before the rest got out of range. Itís going to be a problem now for farmers that there isnít any deer to eat.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7203831
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by DelawareRob
Will do thanks!


Side note:

Do I have to have my traps tagged?

Lol

No...you can stamp them with your name or lic #.


Saw that.... quick google search.


That is probably all the time? Even if they might get stolen?


Donít want my rights to be violated

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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203834
03/04/21 12:20 AM
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How goofy is my state... we have to have everything tagged except for traps that are set specifically for muskrats.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203840
03/04/21 12:23 AM
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Del Rob,
I stamp the pans of all mine with my number. Have had a handful stolen over the years but they never resurfaced.

I know of no incident in Ga where a trapper was charged that wasnt on scene where the trap was found set. Questioned? Yes. But, easy investigation showed that the number on the trap didnt match up with the rest of the evidence. Simple Po-Po work.

I instruct trapping enforcement for new game wardens. I gather some info annually from around the state about different trapping enforcement situations that were encountered.

Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 03/04/21 12:29 AM. Reason: More info

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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203841
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My snares and bodygrip extensions have my tags....built into the cable loop.

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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7203846
03/04/21 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Del Rob,
I stamp the pans of all mine with my number. Have had a handful stolen over the years but they never resurfaced.

I know of no incident in Ga where a trapper was charged that wasnt on scene where the trap was found set. Questioned? Yes. But, easy investigation showed that the number on the trap didnt match up with the rest of the evidence. Simple Po-Po work.


Makes perfect sense.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203847
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Swamp, am wanting to go to S GA to bowhunt for hogs on public ground. Couple ? for you. What is legal minimum bow weight for hogs/deer? What license do I need for hogs? Thanks


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7203848
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
My snares and bodygrip extensions have my tags....built into the cable loop.


I do the same thing.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Kelly] #7203855
03/04/21 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Kelly
Swamp, am wanting to go to S GA to bowhunt for hogs on public ground. Couple ? for you. What is legal minimum bow weight for hogs/deer? What license do I need for hogs? Thanks

No poundage limit for bows...used to require 40# min, but that terminology was removed a few years ago. Crossbows are legal. Must use broadheads.

For deer you will need a 1) non-resident hunting license, 2) a non-resident big game license, and 3) a deer harvest record (free).

For hogs only you will need just the non-resident hunting license.

There are one day versions of these licenses and you can add extra days for reasonable price.

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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7203859
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town


You're all right Swamp. I got nothing against ya.

Mike

Thanks Mike!
I should probably stick to posting about beaver and other critter trapping. At least I dont get called a "nobody." Lol



Nothing wrong with bein' a nobody... once heard an old boy from GA say it's alright to be little bitty. wink

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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203867
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Joe:
Congratulations on your move. I pounded around the Adirondacks some as a kid and took lessons from Johnny Thorpe. Have some fun with this guy. Lay some tracks for him to follow. Go as far as you possibly can. Make some snow angels and pee a heart shape in the snow. Do some crazy stuff that makes him wonder what the heck you're doing out there. Make it look like you have some sets so he'll have to dig around with no traps. Do it a couple of times. Then, when the ground is bare, have someone pick you up and leave your vehicle for the day where he'll find it, so he stakes it out, hopefully, all day. You can have some fun with this.

Some guys on here might be familiar with a character from Northwest Montana named Fuzzy Barton. He has long since passed. The Region one FWP office in Kalispell has some pictures of him. He was a trapper and one time wardens were following him in the Northfork on snowshoes and Fuzzy caught on to them. He dragged those poor guys clear across the Whitefish Range and they followed him to a barstool at the Stillwater Bar.

Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Gene Dziza] #7203874
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Originally Posted by Gene Dziza
Joe:
Congratulations on your move. I pounded around the Adirondacks some as a kid and took lessons from Johnny Thorpe. Have some fun with this guy. Lay some tracks for him to follow. Go as far as you possibly can. Make some snow angels and pee a heart shape in the snow. Do some crazy stuff that makes him wonder what the heck you're doing out there. Make it look like you have some sets so he'll have to dig around with no traps. Do it a couple of times. Then, when the ground is bare, have someone pick you up and leave your vehicle for the day where he'll find it, so he stakes it out, hopefully, all day. You can have some fun with this.

Some guys on here might be familiar with a character from Northwest Montana named Fuzzy Barton. He has long since passed. The Region one FWP office in Kalispell has some pictures of him. He was a trapper and one time wardens were following him in the Northfork on snowshoes and Fuzzy caught on to them. He dragged those poor guys clear across the Whitefish Range and they followed him to a barstool at the Stillwater Bar.

Thats awesome! Keeping it fun makes the day go by quicker.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203889
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Joe:
Congratulations on your move. I pounded around the Adirondacks some as a kid and took lessons from Johnny Thorpe. Have some fun with this guy. Lay some tracks for him to follow. Go as far as you possibly can. Make some snow angels and pee a heart shape in the snow. Do some crazy stuff that makes him wonder what the heck you're doing out there. Make it look like you have some sets so he'll have to dig around with no traps. Do it a couple of times. Then, when the ground is bare, have someone pick you up and leave your vehicle for the day where he'll find it, so he stakes it out, hopefully, all day. You can have some fun with this.


Classic!!

P.S. South Dakota doesn't have any regs on tagging traps with your info. It might be hard to believe, but someone in Pierre didn't think that was a good enough "gotcha" crime to include in our less than 3 pages of trapping regs.

P.S.S. Swamp Wolf, you ever take a game violation fine in cash and give no receipt...? Probably not. It happened to us out "West River" pheasant hunting. Yeah, we ended up being in the wrong, shot too close to livestock that we didn't see ahead of time when the birds were in the ditch. Landowner called the sheriff and he came blazing out. One of my non-resident hunters took the "fall" for the C-note fine. Sheriff took the cash and never gave a receipt. We probably got off easy with less fuss doing it that way. I doubt the State agency ever saw any of that coin. So it goes...


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: NonPCfed] #7203898
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed


Swamp Wolf, you ever take a game violation fine in cash and give no receipt...?.


Georgia GWs DO NOT handle any fine money. As stated above, in GA all fine money goes to the county where the violation occurred, and is handled by that county. The state does not receive any fine money.

Ive never taken evidence or contraband from a suspect without giving them a receipt. I also ensure they sign a
return receipt when evidence is returned to them.

Why any LEO would handle money or other property without a paper trail and a video on their body cam, is beyond me.


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7203915
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Some of you guys scare me.

Iím afraid when they pass laws that anyone who posses a trap or a gun is a felon, youíll be the first to turn me in.

Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: Tailhunter] #7203929
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Originally Posted by Tailhunter
Some of you guys scare me.

Iím afraid when they pass laws that anyone who posses a trap or a gun is a felon, youíll be the first to turn me in.


Just don't post about it in the internet and you will be fine.

Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7204109
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I believe Joe's first mistake on this post was referring to NYS DEC ECO's as Game Wardens - they are not. They are Environmental Conservation Officers and most of the decals on their vehicles say Environmental Police.

To one of Swamp's questions, yes they are DEC Staff. While Swamp has written some interesting comments on this post, I doubt he'd last ten minutes up here...That is not meant as a derogatory statement towards him (Swamp)......


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Re: Infringement on Trapper Rights by a NY Game Warden [Re: joepennanti] #7204123
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Here's a story about the officer,

The officer started this inquiry the same as he did with Joe. He then spent 5 hours following the trapper and checking his traps and sets.

In the end when he couldn't find a violation with the trappers traps or sets, he wrote him a ticket for having an invalid registration on his truck,

The reason, the trapper had done some work on the rusted parts of the truck and primed the bottom third of the truck, the registration should have said two tone Blue/Grey not Blue.

Again the officer had a valid reason to ticket the offender, but this shows his character.

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Originally Posted by Redknot
I believe Joe's first mistake on this post was referring to NYS DEC ECO's as Game Wardens - they are not. They are Environmental Conservation Officers and most of the decals on their vehicles say Environmental Police.

To one of Swamp's questions, yes they are DEC Staff. While Swamp has written some interesting comments on this post, I doubt he'd last ten minutes up here...That is not meant as a derogatory statement towards him (Swamp)......

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