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Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204542
03/04/21 06:38 PM
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What is worse and I can't help thinking about this is what if I have that recessive gene? Will I put my wife through this same pain? I've been looking into this and it's not really a hereditary thing but it is possible. I feel narcissistic and selfish worrying about myself. However, at this point in time but it's right in my face and I can tell you now that I would rather die by my own hand than go the way my father is. It's all very intense and confusing. Beyond words.

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Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204576
03/04/21 07:27 PM
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Been there done that . Is it evil to wish for it to be over ? No what he and all of you are going through is the evil part. God be with you all and help all of you through this. God Bless.

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204582
03/04/21 07:30 PM
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Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204595
03/04/21 07:47 PM
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If he get violent or otherwise ill, if you can get him admitted to the hospital for either 2 or 3 days, I don't remember which, you then can have him admitted to a nursing home specializing in alzheimer's care with the bill paid by SS. Otherwise it'll have to come out of your own pocket if you don't have a nursing home insurance policy. You are not benefitting him to keep him in the home- he's well past that. He needs medical help, not your family's help anymore.

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204599
03/04/21 07:52 PM
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Prayers sent Finster. There's nothing wrong with praying for his suffering to end. "Life" is more than a body with a pulse.

Isn't it tragically ironic, that healthcare has advanced to the point that we can keep our bodies living longer than our minds. Back when life expectancy was shorter, dementia was a much smaller problem. Which is really better? Living longer or dying younger with your mental faculties?


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Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204602
03/04/21 07:53 PM
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I heard no evil at all in your message, only love. I agree with Gary Benson and Boco, talk to your family doctor. I wish you and your family well. You will be in our prayers.


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Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204603
03/04/21 07:54 PM
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Like Dean Chapel said, often the ER is the quickest way to get into the system. Once he's in they usually can't send him home if he's a threat to himself or others.


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Boco couldn't catch a cold.

But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204613
03/04/21 08:03 PM
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There is a quite a difference in wishing one to pass to help them with their eternal progress if one believes of such, as well as helping the family suffering of many kinds of distress brought on by many sickness's of one who suffers these.

My GrandPa has this and was wasting my GrandMa away with trying to maintain him, I suggested she look in to VA hospice care and get on a waiting list for a room, timing was at her doorstep and she had him admitted for it, he was admitted and has been a different person, though he still is sick and does the same things but the constant care has changed him, he does not know who helps him but knows he is being helped.

She is a different person as well, though some of the family laid a trip on her for abandonment of him, she visits all the time and now because of covid has to do so thru a window and can't touch him, however she is there, to those who think they can lecture others about such things when a decision comes up, be thoughtful you do not have to do the decision, I doubt she will ever forgive her self, but physically and mentally she just could not take care of him any more.

I send prayers to you and yours for peaceful thoughts and no grief for wishing him well, being comfortable in your ending helps not only that person, but others who care about him as well.

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Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204624
03/04/21 08:11 PM
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Prayers offered Finster. I sorta know what your going through. My parents had no real life the last few months of their life. Keep your faith and pray as you feel best.

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204696
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Finster, I'm praying for you and your family

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204705
03/04/21 09:05 PM
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Prayers sent.Not a easy situation.Trust in God and it will all work out.


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Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204708
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Finster my mom passed about a month ago with dementia. Knowing my mom to be "born again" I did not mourn at her passing. Instead I rejoiced because I knew she was whole again.

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204710
03/04/21 09:08 PM
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That’s rough. My wife watched her father die and prayed for God to take him. She did she never wanted to go through that again.
I w already made arrangements for myself if it ever comes.

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204734
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Went through the same type of situation with my grandma, now her sister, my great aunt has it. My mom is scared witless that she'll get it too. It's a horrible way for a person to go. It tore my mom apart watching her mom go through it. Now Mom has to watch her aunt, almost like a second mom now, go through the same steps.

In my mind, when grandma wasnt herself anymore, she was already dead, in her mind and soul. Her body was just alive. At that point we weren't wishing for her death, we'd already accepted her as dead.

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204753
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Hang in there, Finster. As you can see we're all pulling for you.

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204757
03/04/21 09:47 PM
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Been there. Prayers sent it’s very hard for sure. Do the best you can. That’s all you can do.

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204764
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I watched two of my grand parents waste away with cancer and one grandmother of dementia. My sweet loving little grandmother turned hateful and violent. One time she looked like a possessed TV character leaning forward telling her youngest granddaughter that was under 12 at the time. "I'M going to kill you!"

It truly blessing and relief when they pass. Its conflicting to wish they would die but honestly none of them would want to live like thator in that type of pain.

Keep your head up your felling are natural. I will pray for your family.

Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Scuba1] #7204790
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Its not evil at all Finster. When there is no dignity left, then life is over. I hope he and the rest of your family will find peace soon.

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Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204804
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Been there with my mother. When I got the call that she had passed I felt a great sense of relief. No one should have to go through what my mother did. I wish you the best in this terrible situation.


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Re: Prayers please Is it evil to wish a parent to die [Re: Finster] #7204842
03/04/21 10:54 PM
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Good luck Finster, I wish more family members had the same mentality you do. Unfortunately, that's often not the case. I live by memento mori. Wish more people understood.


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