Interesting Take on Electric Cars

As an engineer I love the electric vehicle technology However, I
have been troubled for a longtime by the fact that the electrical
energy to keep the batteries charged has to come from the grid and
that means more power generation and a huge increase in the
distribution infrastructure Whether generated from coal, gas, oil,
wind or sun, installed generation capacity is limited A friend sent
me the following that says it very well. You should all take a look
at this short article.

IF ELECTRIC CARS DO NOT USE GASOLINE, THEY WILL NOT PARTICIPATE IN
PAYING A GASOLINE TAX ON EVERY GALLON THAT IS SOLD FOR AUTOMOBILES,
WHICH WAS ENACTED SOME YEARS AGO TO HELP TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS AND
BRIDGES. THEY WILL USE THE ROADS, BUT WILL NOT PAY FOR THEIR
MAINTENANCE!
In case you were thinking of buying hybrid or an electric car:
Ever since the advent of electric cars, the REAL cost per mile of
those things has never been discussed. All you ever heard was the mpg
in terms of gasoline, with nary a mention of the cost of electricity
to run it . This is the first article I've ever seen and tells the
story pretty much as I expected it to.

Electricity has to be one of the least efficient ways to power things
yet they're being shoved down our throats. Glad somebody finally put
engineering and math to paper.

At a neighborhood BBQ I was talking to a neighbor, a BC Hydro
Executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed,
then got serious.

If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you
had to face certain realities. For example, a home charging system
for a Tesla requires 75 amp service. The average house is equipped
with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes),
The electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than three
houses with a single Tesla, each. For even half the homes to have
electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.

This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles. Our
residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So as our genius
elected officials promote this nonsense, not only are we being urged
to buy these things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems
with expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have
to renovate our entire delivery system! This latter "investment"
will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that
it will be presented with an 'OOPS...!' and a shrug.

If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are
eco-friendly, just read the following. Note: If you ARE a green
person, read it anyway. It's enlightening.

Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors and
he writes, "For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted
only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.
"Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran
on the battery. So, the range including the 9-gallon gas tank and the
16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles.

It will take you 4.5 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10
hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5
hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging
Time) would be 20 mph.
According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of
electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.
The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned ,
so I looked up what I pay for electricity.

I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16
per kwh. 16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.
$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the
Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a
gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32
Mpg = $0.10 per mile.

The gasoline powered car costs about $25,000 while the Volt costs
$46,000 plus. So the Canadian Government wants loyal Canadians not to
do the math, but simply pay twice as much for a car, that costs
more than seven times as much to run, and takes three times longer to
drive across the country.

Sounds about right.

And he didn’t even touch on the batteries themselves. Then again that’s an entirely different discussion, lol.

Will 2 batteries make it a race car then? J/K

Don't know much about electric cars but I am ordering $2,000 in electric chainsaws, pretty excited to get them. Not having to start a saw or inhale two stroke fumes all day will be nice.

I've got an electric chainsaw along with 2 gassers.
The electric are nice for what you mention.
That being said when some serious cutting needs to be done I ain't reaching for an electric saw.

New taxes will be created to make up for the gasoline tax. I will gauerentee that!

That is already in the process. Only thing is ALL will be taxed not just the electric folks. A mileage tax is in the works.

25 miles.Won't be very hard to figure out.

A Republican senator in MN has introduced a bill here to tax electric vehicle owners who have, so far, escaped any type of road tax. Will be interesting to see what happens.

It's not a surprise that Washington state is planning on installing tracking devices on all vehicles sometime in the next 10 years, and then send you a bill every month based on the miles you have driven. They say they are doing this in order to tax electric cars that aren't paying the fuel tax. But what do you bet that they don't eliminate the fuel tax and leave it intact along with the mileage tax?

Mileage based taxing they are already talking about that.

No tracking device is going to be on a vehicle of mine.

Running Stihl 500I for the big wood, electrics will be polesaw and top handle climbing saws.

Any car with onstar has a tracking device. Even if you don't activate it you can still be tracked.

None of my vehicles have ever had onstar.

There already on them. All they got to do is plug it in!!!

Then I will RIP it out.

The insurance company sent me a tracking device stating that I would get a discount plugging it into my car.I sent it back to them with a no thanks.

For years in the mines, we cut posts with a 2 man bow saw. Can’t take a gas powered saw underground. Before I retired, we started getting hydraulic saws than ran off the PTO on the scoop tractors. In the last few years, they went to battery powered saws...the guys love them. They run about $1000 a piece. Not sure, they may have permissible motors ( can be used in a gassy [ methane ] environment ).