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.38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? #7206999
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Okay. I was just going through a bunch of boxes of ammo I got when I bought out an elderly guy. In the pile is 2 boxes of Smith and Wesson brand .38 Special+P.

I shoot a Dan Wesson .357 Magnum revolver and have frequently shot 38 Specials for practice. Wondering if the 38 Special+P's will work or should I plan on trading/selling them off.

Thanks!

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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207008
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Yeppers just choot em


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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207012
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Let em rip.

Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207076
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Your revolver will handle them just fine.

Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207080
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Been shooting them for years. Power is between a .38 special and a .357/

Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Jim Bethell] #7207087
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Originally Posted by Jim Bethell
Been shooting them for years. Power is between a .38 special and a .357/

Will shoot fine.If you don't want them,,let me know in PM.


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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207105
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S&W just fine watch out for the Saturday night specials no way are they rated for them.

Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: cotton] #7207114
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Originally Posted by cotton
Yeppers just choot em


Choot em' Elizabeth! Choot em'


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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: 330-Trapper] #7207119
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by cotton
Yeppers just choot em


Choot em' Elizabeth! Choot em'

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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207128
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Let them fly! I have done as you describe, and I am still okay from it, and the pistol is as well.

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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207153
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just of the top of my head these are the approximate max PSI of each case if your reloading follow published load data

but this will give you an idea of why it is fine to shoot 38+p in a 357

38spl 19Kpsi max

38+P 21Kpsi max

357mag 35 or 37K psi max


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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207173
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I was thinking the same Pete. A .38+P wouldn't come close to the chamber pressure of a .357 mag.


Eh...wot?

Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207233
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Like everyone else is sayin not just yes but (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) yes. If it fits into the cylinder it gets shot from my .357mag grin


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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207263
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Thanks, folks! Just wanted to check and make sure...before I realized I have a heckuva lot more ammo than I though I did. I bought all this quite a few years ago and really did not remember just how much I had. Opened up a cabinet door and there was a pile of good stuff in there.

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Sounds like a good problem to have the way things are a goin right now


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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Lugnut] #7207298
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I was thinking the same Pete. A .38+P wouldn't come close to the chamber pressure of a .357 mag.



yup in Hogdon load data the hottest max load for 38+p is 18,600psi 125gr bullet

in 38spl data 17,000psi was the hottest max load looking deeper 17,500psi is the sammi max

here is a comparison chart I found
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Then ....what was that thread about a week ago....saying you couldn’t shoot 38’s out of a .357 ....??? Green Country Pete

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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207328
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That was about shooting a .38 S & W out of a .38 Special or .357 mag. You can’t do it. The diameter of a 38 S & W is larger than a 38 special or 357 mag.


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What model Dan Wesson do you have? Can you post a picture?
I have a model 15-2. LOVE DW revolvers!


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Re: .38 Special +P out of .357 Mag? [Re: Moosetrot] #7207364
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yup the 38S&W is .361 diameter bullet because it was originally designed for the conversion cylinders for cap and ball revolvers

38spl is .357 inch bullet

the chart compares them however for pressure even though they have different bullet diamiters

it also compares 9mm , 380 , 38super a .355 bullet

they did leave out 38-200 although that is really a 38 S&W variant with a 200 gr lead round nose bullet the Brits used the guns were labeled 38-200 talk about a slow round


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