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skills #7207938
03/07/21 02:22 PM
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What skills can a person with common sense teach themselves? Skills that are valuable for survival in a grid down world and links to info about learning those skills.

I will start:

Water,







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Re: skills [Re: Marty] #7208672
03/08/21 12:26 AM
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The problem is the common sense part. These days that seems to be a super power just as rare as x ray vision and being able to fly.


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Re: skills [Re: Marty] #7208677
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Controlling panic. Panic kills.


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Re: skills [Re: Scuba1] #7208688
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Originally Posted by Scuba1
The problem is the common sense part. These days that seems to be a super power just as rare as x ray vision and being able to fly.


I have good common sense.....sure you do also.


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Re: skills [Re: warrior] #7208690
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Originally Posted by warrior
Controlling panic. Panic kills.


Yes, being able to problem solve while your heart rate is jacked....you can train some of that. Get heart rate up and do math in your head...

Work the problem till it is solved.


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Re: skills [Re: Marty] #7208694
03/08/21 12:55 AM
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All you really need is a 25 pound bag of brown rice, 25 pounds of pinto beans, some water and salt. Then just hole-up for about a month, and when you come out the world will be pretty much yours.
Most of the problem people will have taken care of themselves.
Sort of a selfish position to take, but survival is about surviving.


"My life is better than your vacation"
Re: skills [Re: Marty] #7208696
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Originally Posted by Marty
Originally Posted by warrior
Controlling panic. Panic kills.


Yes, being able to problem solve while your heart rate is jacked....you can train some of that. Get heart rate up and do math in your head...

Work the problem till it is solved.


That's a bit different than a life or death situation. I do some of my best thinking when working out due to the increased blood and oxygen flow. But that's not the same as fearing for your life.

Maybe having the wife chase you around with a rolling pin while doing the math would be effective. grin

Re: skills [Re: Marty] #7208704
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Depends entirely on your location. An example, some of the things that would be valuable for you, like water purification, would be worthless to me. I can and do drink from any water body I come across. The ability to build a fire in any and all conditions is far more important in my environment. My rule of thumb is to always have 3 ways to build a fire with me at all times. One of those is always in my pocket. With a fire I can survive...and even purify water if I had to for some reason.

After fire, I would say navigation. Map and compass stuff. I taught my kids to do it when they were old enough to understand. We played games with it to make it fun. I would set up a course and have a big bag of candy, cookies or something at the end. They had to follow a course to find it. This was all done at our lodge 200-miles from the nearest town, so they understood it was serious stuff. When my oldest joined the US military and was in combat medic school the instructors couldnt believe she could use a map and compass as good as they could.


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Re: skills [Re: Marty] #7208707
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Helped my brother-in-law butcher one of his hogs today... We had been putting it off trying to find a place we could take it to but everybody is booked up. So we had to bite the bullet and do it ourselves... Just about waited too long. He was a big boy... Once we got him killed and hung up he was 500+ lbs. We put around 340 lbs of meat in the cooler.

For a couple of novice first-timers it went pretty well. We learned a bit and the next two should go even better.

Mike


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Re: skills [Re: Mike in A-town] #7208756
03/08/21 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Helped my brother-in-law butcher one of his hogs today... We had been putting it off trying to find a place we could take it to but everybody is booked up. So we had to bite the bullet and do it ourselves... Just about waited too long. He was a big boy... Once we got him killed and hung up he was 500+ lbs. We put around 340 lbs of meat in the cooler.

For a couple of novice first-timers it went pretty well. We learned a bit and the next two should go even better.

Mike

Oh boy my grandpa enjoyed raising a few pigs. He was born 1884, he didn't have to but he did. Butchering time was a mini family reunion and cookout. Everyone had a task and it went well. Then another weekend gathering a few weeks later to pass out the cured bacon, ham, sausage and a jar or two of his homemade kraut.


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Re: skills [Re: Marty] #7208786
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My son and I enjoy butchering together. Two people makes it lots easier. No mystery in what your eating. I cooked catfish Saturday evening. Family was here. I cut about a pound of home made bacon up in little pieces. Fried home canned green beans up with that bacon and some chopped up scallion. It was pretty tasty and went well with the catfish we caught last weekend.

Boiling water is good but it takes a LOT of fuel. You need to drink a gallon, minimum a day. If you start with clear water a ceramic filter system that goes from one five gallon bucket to another, will last a long time. If your plan is well water that filter will really last a long time. A deep well is useless without electricity and a shallow well with a hand pump will get contaminated with human waste once toilets quit working. That clear, shallow well water, wont plug up your ceramic filter quickly.

You can pre filter your water with a layer of charcoal, a layer of sand, and a layer of gravel in a five gallon bucket with a small hole drilled in the bottom. the gravel goes in the top layer. It wont be safe to drink but even pond water will be pretty clear and your ceramic filter system wont plug up so fast when you put the pond water in.

If you have to run and live in a hedgerow under a poncho, you need to be 12-50 years old. If you have a family to take care of it wont work. Resources will be too hard to acquire in sufficient quantity's. If you dont think so load up your family for a weekend backpack adventure. Sunday afternoon you will know what I am talking about.


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Re: skills [Re: warrior] #7208845
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Originally Posted by warrior
Controlling panic. Panic kills.


Puts me in mind of the scene in the movie Lone Survivor when the team is trying to get down the mountainside under heavy fire. Even during executions there's no panic.

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Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Helped my brother-in-law butcher one of his hogs today... We had been putting it off trying to find a place we could take it to but everybody is booked up. So we had to bite the bullet and do it ourselves... Just about waited too long. He was a big boy... Once we got him killed and hung up he was 500+ lbs. We put around 340 lbs of meat in the cooler.

For a couple of novice first-timers it went pretty well. We learned a bit and the next two should go even better.

Mike

Oh boy my grandpa enjoyed raising a few pigs. He was born 1884, he didn't have to but he did. Butchering time was a mini family reunion and cookout. Everyone had a task and it went well. Then another weekend gathering a few weeks later to pass out the cured bacon, ham, sausage and a jar or two of his homemade kraut.


It's unpleasant work but we still had a good time... One of those little ironic things in life.

Mike


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Re: skills [Re: Marty] #7209470
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How to survive on your own without electricity,etc.Living off the land.


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WATER is no. 1. Snare making, trotline making, & shelter basics were next for me

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You never know how you'll deal with panic until you've been through it.


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CONFIDENCE in survival skills helps control emotions greatly. ALWAYS think of an out plan when travelling in woods or bad times

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Re: skills [Re: patrapperbuster] #7209590
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Originally Posted by patrapperbuster
WATER is no. 1. Snare making, trotline making, & shelter basics were next for me

Nope.
Of the non trauma related causes of death, thermal regulation is #1.
In other words, hypo/hyper-thermia kill faster than dehydration.
Hydration is #2.

Doesn't anyone remember the wilderness survival Rule of 3 chant??
You can live:
3 weeks without food,
3 days without water,
3 hours without warmth,
3 seconds without hope.


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"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
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Primitive Fire Ignition.
Fire from Ice.

https://youtu.be/6rL8Nt73gpY

https://youtu.be/v8I70aZPNcQ

It works. I've done it.


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"We are fast approaching... rule by brute force."
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