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Rats not wanting bait #7208736
03/08/21 05:11 AM
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So long story short rats have had zero interest in any bait I've been trying, peanut butter , bacon grease,corn ,dog food bacon grease candy ect. They will come to the wooden boxes I put my rat traps in sniff a little and walk way. Any ideas what I can do ? Been considering getting some if those RGB round conibers and stuffing them in PVC pipe and putting them in entrenches and runs where I think there going. Tried my little double for traps but baited thy won't hit the triggers, they will eat the food in one side then wald about and eat it from the other won't even try to touch the trigger wires.
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Mabye I should get some of that fancy adc bait from WCS mabye ? I was nailing the pack rats with my boxes for a good little while but these barn rats seem to be moving in and just don't wanna play

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208742
03/08/21 05:58 AM
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Sticky trap? They're effective when other methods may not work.

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208751
03/08/21 06:18 AM
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Trap prep? Bedding? Dye and wax or paint dip? Wearing gauntlets? Knee boot? Scent control? Pan tension? That aint no Possum, may have to up your game????


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Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208753
03/08/21 06:20 AM
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Seriously, try a dog proof with a night latch or hair trigger !! What have you got to lose?


you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208793
03/08/21 07:47 AM
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Rats are neophobic, they're afraid of new things, especially if they see a buddy killed in something new.

I had the same problem.

The cats took care of it for me.


Eh...wot?

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208870
03/08/21 09:02 AM
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Sean on Rat Trap Monday has a video on those. Use the traps with wide yellow trigger in the box as shown......don't set the trap.......do throw a few sunflower seeds in the back.

Once they get over fear of the new trap and are eating the seeds regular, then arm the trap. He built a box like that with 10 traps in it and got 10 the first night, and almost that many the 2nd.

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208875
03/08/21 09:04 AM
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Get the trap out of that box and set up tight to the wall.


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Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208880
03/08/21 09:07 AM
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I would think tuned 110 with pan trigger would do the same.

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208884
03/08/21 09:10 AM
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I bet they saw the pack rats in there ,Dead.


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Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Bruce T] #7208903
03/08/21 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
Get the trap out of that box and set up tight to the wall.


2X
If there's blood on the trap, wash it off.
Move the trap after each catch.

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208927
03/08/21 09:41 AM
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Rats are very smart. Ive had some it took a month to catch. Set every type trap including box traps. Gave up set traps off, took a box trap that had egg in it put on top of cut off saw table. Forgot about it, was still set. Came by bout week later rat dead in trapbox....go figure. But got him.


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Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208930
03/08/21 09:44 AM
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Wolfdog, Try using Hersheys syrup . I have had luck with that when they wont hit any other baits.

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208932
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Also try a bedded and covered number one longspring in a travel run , blind set . blended well . Gets em every time!

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7208947
03/08/21 10:12 AM
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Fatty meat is a good rat bait. Fresh ground pork. They can be a pain to deal with. I don't know if you could get rid of them with traps if there are many.


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Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Lugnut] #7208990
03/08/21 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Rats are neophobic, they're afraid of new things, especially if they see a buddy killed in something new.

I had the same problem.

The cats took care of it for me.


Rats are tough because of this. Spooky of anything new and dead compadres will make them trap shy. I have a lot of trail cam video/pics of them not quite commiting to cages, snap traps and an overpriced A24.

I dumped $200 on that A24. It has never killed a rat even though they've stuck their head up the tunnel. Always just shy of triggering the trip wire. The A24 is expensive but it works as an effective mouse trap. I have a handful of traps from India called a "Black Cat". That trap is a rat killer but if you leave it in the same spot it'll only get one/two before the others avoid it.

I wouldn't keep adding new stuff to the same location. I'd take the trap out of the box, put the trigger side up against the wall and keep it baited. Add new sets at different locations. Rat trapping is a PIA but you gotta keep at it and have patience.

ETA- a DP baited with wet COB can be effective for rats.

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Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: HayDay] #7209569
03/08/21 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HayDay
I would think tuned 110 with pan trigger would do the same.

I'm look had at getting some of the expands pan pan triggers strictly for this

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: bobsheedy] #7209574
03/08/21 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bobsheedy
Originally Posted by Bruce T
Get the trap out of that box and set up tight to the wall.


2X
If there's blood on the trap, wash it off.
Move the trap after each catch.

These are fresh traps and boxes zero catches in this one

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7209620
03/08/21 09:23 PM
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Wolfdog i can loan you a few 120’s with pans. You can mail them back in a couple weeks. PM me your address. You can surly knock a couple box’s together with scraps. Put a trap in each end. Try baiting with raisons


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Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7209635
03/08/21 09:33 PM
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Would a drowning set , 5 gallon pail half full of water . bait on a pop can on wire..Stick leaning up on it, for a runway Works for mice real good. Use Rv antifreeze if weather is freezing.. old243

Re: Rats not wanting bait [Re: Wolfdog91] #7209646
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Strawberry jam and let them have room to get in the box before they get to the trap

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