Re: 0-430 in eight months
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/08/21 06:18 PM
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It takes time to build up a good credit score. I just checked mine and it's 817. Having a CC is a good idea for emergencies. Maybe you'll never need it but it's handy if you do. Yes, some of these guys are proud that they can pay cash for everything but at some point in time a good credit score will help you. It's 2021.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/08/21 07:16 PM
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Gary, its not about being proud of paying cash, but rather offering insight into something schools do a poor job of teaching...money. Anybody that is able to stay out of debt by living within their means is going to have a leg up in this world. I remember a post on here a year or so back talking about debt and how some still think carrying mortgage debt is a good idea because it builds credit, you can deduct the interest and because the interest they were making in the market was more than the interest they were paying on mortgage. Thats all well and good until crap hits the fan, unexpected layoffs, government shutdowns, etc. Probably nobody here will admit it, but im guessing some of those pro-mortgage folks got bit in the hind quarters over the last year when they lost jobs and still had mortgage payments to make. I know the same size shoe doesnt fit everone, but I just offered the advice that I think would benefit Wolfie the most financially. He is free to take it or ignore it, but has nothing to do with 'pride'. If that is the way it sounded, it wasnt meant that way.
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/08/21 07:40 PM
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Not proud to pay cash for everything. In fact, there are lots of things we don't do or don't buy because we don't have the cash. We got into trouble with credit cards when we were in our early 20's. Took us a long time to climb out of that mess. As soon as we missed a payment we couldn't afford, there were late fees which pushed us over the credit limit. Then there were over the credit limit fees too. And all of the purchases we had made were now due at the new 28% interest rate plus all the fees that had accumulated. We owned a few thousand but paid at least 3x that by the time we were done. Credit card companies make money by getting you in trouble and their system is designed to make that happen. I'm not dancing with them again.
-Ryan
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/08/21 08:09 PM
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danny clifton
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If you CHOOSE to charge more than you can pay every month dont blame the bank. You should already know that money is expensive. If you need a loan go to your bank. If you have been using your cc responsibly it will take about ten minutes to get approved. People who blame banks for their debt have a lot of problems
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
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03/08/21 08:38 PM
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I've never had any problems renting a car or getting a hotel room with a debit card. The person behind the counter has no idea if it's a debit card taking cash out of my bank account or a credit card taking money out of a line of credit. We card just about everything, just not on a credit card.
Must be nice , I've been turned down at three or four hotels trying to get a room even though I had cash in hand. No credit no room. And buying this car was beyond a pain.
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
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03/08/21 08:39 PM
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Is there a place a person can find what his credit score? Most credit unions and some banks will give you a free credit report. Between that and the Big Three (see the links) that are federally required to give you a free credit report every year, you can get a free credit report every four times a year, every year. Getting these reports does not hurt your score. However, when you go for a loan and they run your score, it lowers your score a little bit. So don't apply for a bunch of credit cards, car loans, etc in the same week. There is a way to lower the impact of several checks on your report, if they're all for the same type of loan (say a car) and they're all in a short space of time (think 6 weeks, but don't quote me). It always pays to know the rules before playing. https://www.usa.gov/credit-reports https://www.ftc.gov/faq/consumer-protection/get-my-free-credit-report
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
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03/08/21 08:40 PM
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Not good at all. Pay your bills and DO NOT miss a payment. If You are missing payments you have a vehicle that you can't afford. If That's the case, you need to sell the vehicle and get one that you can afford.
Also, You need to pay your credit card off every month. It is absolutely stupid to pay interest on a credit card. If you can't afford to pay your card off each month you are spending too much money and need to STOP. If you can't afford to pay the credit card off each month you certainly can't afford to pay Interest.
I have had a credit card for over 20 years and have never paid one cent in interest, Not one! If I can't pay for it I don't buy it, plain and simple.
Too many people live beyond their means and buy Crap they don't need.
Sorry to be blunt, but you are not in a good spot. Best. Answer. Ever.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." -Edmund Burke "We are fast approaching... rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/08/21 08:42 PM
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I've never had any problems renting a car or getting a hotel room with a debit card. The person behind the counter has no idea if it's a debit card taking cash out of my bank account or a credit card taking money out of a line of credit. We card just about everything, just not on a credit card.
Must be nice , I've been turned down at three or four hotels trying to get a room even though I had cash in hand. No credit no room. And buying this car was beyond a pain. Just use her card.
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/08/21 08:42 PM
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I've never had any problems renting a car or getting a hotel room with a debit card. The person behind the counter has no idea if it's a debit card taking cash out of my bank account or a credit card taking money out of a line of credit. We card just about everything, just not on a credit card.
Must be nice , I've been turned down at three or four hotels trying to get a room even though I had cash in hand. No credit no room. And buying this car was beyond a pain. Debit cards hold rooms.
No Jab.
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
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03/08/21 09:38 PM
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Building credit takes a long time. But miss one payment and they smack you back down quick.
Don’t worry, you’ll get there. Never carry a balance on a credit card, never miss a car payment, nor any other kind of payment. When I was young and dumb I had a credit card I let go delinquent, and a truck that got repossessed, and medical bills and phone bills that went to collections. I had BAD credit for quite a while, but I got my head on straight and started down the right path and my wife just looked at our scores the other day and I’ve got a 798 score now. You’ll get there, just be patient.
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
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03/08/21 09:39 PM
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We haven't had debt in 25 years. Life really is better without owning anyone anything. We are planning to move in about a year. We will probably be looking for a mortgage. Not sure how that's handled when I have no credit score at all. Seems to me that we're managing our money better than most but it will probably hurt me. Hoping we can find a bank that will look at our whole financial picture without a credit score. local home town banks, especially if you have any history with them , will overlook credit scores.
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
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03/08/21 09:42 PM
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We haven't had debt in 25 years. Life really is better without owning anyone anything. We are planning to move in about a year. We will probably be looking for a mortgage. Not sure how that's handled when I have no credit score at all. Seems to me that we're managing our money better than most but it will probably hurt me. Hoping we can find a bank that will look at our whole financial picture without a credit score. local home town banks, especially if you have any history with them , will overlook credit scores. Same with loan sharks and drug dealers.
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/10/21 10:29 PM
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I've never had any problems renting a car or getting a hotel room with a debit card. The person behind the counter has no idea if it's a debit card taking cash out of my bank account or a credit card taking money out of a line of credit. We card just about everything, just not on a credit card.
Must be nice , I've been turned down at three or four hotels trying to get a room even though I had cash in hand. No credit no room. And buying this car was beyond a pain. I used to work for hotels and you're right. Hotels don't want cash. That's for two reasons. First, the people that party, play loud music, get drunk at the pool, and trash hotel rooms are usually weekend cash customers. The second is that the the hotel wants a credit card to charge for the damage to the room when those guests stay. Cash is out for hotels. But with a debit card I've never had a problem. I've stayed in hotels in at least a dozen states, maybe two dozen, and never got questioned about my debit card once. I also bought a car once and after we negotiated a price, I met the finance manager. The finance manager's job was to get us to finance the deal. Dealerships make more money on financing than they do on car sales. The FM was a hard sell. We walked out of the FM's office and found our sales guy. Told him that if he could do the deal we agreed to, we'd buy but we weren't dealing with the finance manager any more. By the way, the finance guy is the top sales guy at a dealership. He makes the most money and brings in the most money for the dealer. We really thought that dealership wasn't interested in a cash sale and were just going to buy a car somewhere else. We got a call from the sales guy the next day and we bought the car in cash. I've bought several cars and all have been cash deals. That was the only problem we ever had paying cash. And, of course I mean a cashier's check from the bank. If I showed up with a briefcase full of brand new $20's there might have been some raised eyebrows.
-Ryan
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Re: 0-430 in eight months
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03/10/21 10:38 PM
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danny clifton
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yeah, dont tell them your writing a check till you have a price
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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