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whats the deal with lumber prices? #7210334
03/09/21 02:16 PM
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yesterday i went and picked up 2 sheets of 1/2 inch plywood and 4 , 2x6s,,,,,,,118.00 bucks!! couldn't belive it. are you guys seeing it sky high as well?


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210336
03/09/21 02:19 PM
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It's been threw the roof for almost a year


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210340
03/09/21 02:22 PM
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Costs of everything is going up. They were emptying hardware stores of lumber during the apocalypse in texas to burn.

Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210343
03/09/21 02:24 PM
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Sheet of osb normally 9 or 10 bucks was 33 last week


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210348
03/09/21 02:30 PM
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Trees must suddenly be rare due to covid.

Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210354
03/09/21 02:37 PM
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$50.55 for one sheet of 1/2 inch Plywood here.

$10.75 for 2x6x8

Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210358
03/09/21 02:41 PM
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i know a repo guy , for the past year he has been re prepossessing logging equipment, one of the logger's toll him that he has of 1000 acres timber and if he logged it would be lucky to brake even.

Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210389
03/09/21 03:18 PM
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This isn't to be confused with timber prices, which are at near all time lows.
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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210394
03/09/21 03:25 PM
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3/4 inch t and g plywood priced yesterday$ 88
Last week 2 x6-14 foot $36
4 x6 by 8 foot OWD post 55$
Kodiak not alot of choices ( none)

Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210400
03/09/21 03:31 PM
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So who is getting rich?

Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210442
03/09/21 04:20 PM
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If people pay it companies will charge it. Simple. Stop buying stop building stop supporting this craziness.


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210451
03/09/21 04:30 PM
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It started last spring. There's been many factors piling up, and I don't claim to know all of them but here are a few:

First off, early Covid shut downs last year slowed down logging, milling and transport. Eventually most of those were deemed "essential" but it still caused a little shortage.
This combined with increased demand: lots of people out of work with stimulus money took on home improvement or building projects last year. Normal construction didn't really slow down either, since most builders could comply with mandates.

3rd, 2020 set a new record for wildfires in the US. This has 2 negative effects: a LOT of commercial timber burned in Western logging states, and a lot of burned houses are being replaced. Wildfires are bad for lumber prices on both the supply & demand ends.

4th, cost of living and fuel prices are increasing, which affects the whole supply chain.

Like I said, it's been a pile of factors.


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210452
03/09/21 04:34 PM
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Hardwood and softwood log prices have not totally recovered from the 2008 crash. However lumber , OSB, plywood, prices are way up and increasing. The loggers are barely braking even but The end processors ,(sawmills, plywood mills, lumber yards, etc,)are always the ones making the money.

Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210455
03/09/21 04:42 PM
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I can't speak to the current prices but I know for a fact the mills control the local stump price with a heavy hand. It wouldn't surprise me if this market control goes all the way up.

The guy who did all of our cutting tried to break the mill and lost.

He started as a small cutter built his operation into the biggest buyer in southwest Alabama and had allied businesses along side. Even was able to run for mayor of the county seat. He was a major player and managed to acquire the bulk of the dealerships from all the mills in that corner of the state then parked it all on his lot to force the mills to renegotiate better prices. When the dust settled he was out of office under federal investigation, which was later dropped, divorced and broke. He still cuts for us as he's always paid the best and does exactly as we ask.


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210469
03/09/21 04:50 PM
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No surprise, homes are being built around the clock , at least here, shortage of anything in the major buy outs.

Just like most things demands and supply set the price, it pays to be watching things if your interested in doing anything really now days.

Prices always fluctuate with demand, in a year or so things could be different might be worse.

Know for sure food and gas is moving now, after the election, don't see any stop to that either as people start to notice, would be smart to get key things now that last a while, while most are still affordable !


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210482
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Yep,buy what you need now and stock up-prices of lots of stuff going to go thru the roof shortly.


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: Squash] #7210491
03/09/21 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Squash
Hardwood and softwood log prices have not totally recovered from the 2008 crash. However lumber , OSB, plywood, prices are way up and increasing. The loggers are barely braking even but The end processors ,(sawmills, plywood mills, lumber yards, etc,)are always the ones making the money.


I worked for Louisiana-Pacific for five years. The plant turned a profit one of the five years I worked there. They recently announced they are doing away with OSB production and are investing 100+ million dollars in our local plant in new equipment to manufacture siding. Too many big producers in the OSB game. It's not the manufacturer making the killing.

Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210496
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One 2x4 16 feet long and two 1x3 strappings 16 feet long total $24


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: M.Magis] #7210517
03/09/21 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
This isn't to be confused with timber prices, which are at near all time lows.
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Not true; at least on the west coast.
A year ago western hemlock saw logs 36' average were about $450per MBF, now closer to $700 per MBF. Western red cedar a year ago about $1000 per MBF, now $2100 per MBF on 34'-40' logs, slightly lower on 24'-33' logs.
The loggers are slammed with work, trying to schedule one to do some cutting is getting tough.


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Re: whats the deal with lumber prices? [Re: foxkidd44] #7210535
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Just in case anyone isn't aware ammo prices are up too.


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