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Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7214724
03/13/21 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DWC
Ya i wasnt sayin the issue was taking water.


In that case, who lives near the border and wishes we would deport deadbeat Americans who don't work and sap tax dollars from hard working American taxpayers and would you mind if they take a drink on the way out of the country?

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7214817
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Here's an article today stating horrible conditions at 1 center. 729% over capacity, showers once a week, can't go outside or call family.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/migra...8v2fpP8yd-z_9GtX-i542BjdBPwaXNomSeulHj7c

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7214822
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I'm only 3 hours from Juarez Mexico. Not sure if that's counts as close to the border to you. A lot of trafficking (human, drugs and weapons) comes through NM. Albuquerque is a major corridor for cartels to ship their products because of I40 and I25

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7214884
03/13/21 10:01 PM
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I worked in Eagle Pass, TX in 2010 and we saw a lot of illegals crossing our ranch. Sleeping in tent blinds, under tower blinds, filling up canteens in water troughs.

I was taking a guest hunting one morning, opened the zipper to our tent blind and two guys flew out the door running, knocked me over and scared the crap out of me. It was a serious problem then. My respect goes to the border patrol down there, they were fast to respond when called, and showed a lot of presence. Most of the illegals we saw in groups were unarmed, but the coyotes were usually armed. They stayed away from the groups, ahead of them to lead them but far enough to escape them if caught . Watched and videoed a lot of them while scouting for deer. They are a determined bunch!

I too, am curious about the current situation. Has it worsened or tightened up ? Following ...

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: JoMiBru] #7214914
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Originally Posted by JoMiBru
I worked in Eagle Pass, TX in 2010 and we saw a lot of illegals crossing our ranch. Sleeping in tent blinds, under tower blinds, filling up canteens in water troughs.

I was taking a guest hunting one morning, opened the zipper to our tent blind and two guys flew out the door running, knocked me over and scared the crap out of me. It was a serious problem then. My respect goes to the border patrol down there, they were fast to respond when called, and showed a lot of presence. Most of the illegals we saw in groups were unarmed, but the coyotes were usually armed. They stayed away from the groups, ahead of them to lead them but far enough to escape them if caught . Watched and videoed a lot of them while scouting for deer. They are a determined bunch!

I too, am curious about the current situation. Has it worsened or tightened up ? Following ...

From what I've read it's bad in Tx, NM and Az. Haven't heard anything about California. Az had to close 3 border crossing bridges (ports of entry) because of the massive influx. Last I heard Abbott deckard SOE and sent in troops to guard the border.

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7214991
03/13/21 11:43 PM
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Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: adam m] #7214999
03/13/21 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by adam m
Here's an article today stating horrible conditions at 1 center. 729% over capacity, showers once a week, can't go outside or call family.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/migra...8v2fpP8yd-z_9GtX-i542BjdBPwaXNomSeulHj7c


Most of the invaders have cell phones, so they should say "can't call their family on the American tax payers dime". We should put the invaders in work camps for 5 years when caught, before sending them home. They would stop coming. We should highly discourage illegal aliens, with strong penalties and make it easier for guest workers to come here legally

Keith

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7215029
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A work camp would not deter them. The majority of illegals (regardless of origin) are feeling extreme poverty, extreme crimes/ gangs/ cartels, socialism and 3rd world countries. There's no real consequence that will deter them, how will they pay their penalties when they make a few US dollars a day?
There's a lot that are caught sent to our prison system and it's a cushy life compared to their former life. They get deported come back and do it again. They get all the sane treatment or prisoners get. 3 squares free health care etc...

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: adam m] #7215031
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Originally Posted by adam m
A work camp would not deter them. The majority of illegals (regardless of origin) are feeling extreme poverty, extreme crimes/ gangs/ cartels, socialism and 3rd world countries. There's no real consequence that will deter them, how will they pay their penalties when they make a few US dollars a day?
There's a lot that are caught sent to our prison system and it's a cushy life compared to their former life. They get deported come back and do it again. They get all the sane treatment or prisoners get. 3 squares free health care etc...



At least we would get work out of them. We need immigrants, but not all immigrants. There needs to be a fairly easy, legal way to let foreigners in to work, that quickly gets rid of them if they have issues.

Keith

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: Blaine County] #7215045
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
I wouldn't get too worked up about someone needing a drink of water.


Would you get worked up about someone crapping in your front yard ?


Sit on your horse on top of a ridge, look out across the country and tell me there is no God.

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7215080
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Brother in law use to work the border. Visited 15 years ago and the illegal crossings were constant and plentiful. He actually ended up shooting a drug runner.

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7215122
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I live near the Border. Lots of water. St.Lawrence River .

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7215168
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I live near the Border. Lots of water. St John River.


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Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7215178
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I live close enough to see those hockey-stick wielding Canadians sneaking across with their maple syrup, trying to get our kids all hyped up on the stuff...


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Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7215182
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Fox news has a guy down there and its amazing video of the "rush" of illegals coming across and of the surge in drugs.

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7215201
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Local law busting quite a few in our local train yard now. Biden created a bunch . But it also is farm time, lots row crops and rice ground being prepared for the year. Also the farmers who have work visa's for their mex's can't get their regular help back because of covid

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: hippie] #7215237
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Originally Posted by hippie
Fox news has a guy down there and its amazing video of the "rush" of illegals coming across and of the surge in drugs.



Another reason we should legalize drugs.

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7215278
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Legalizing drugs won't stop the black market.

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: Rat Masterson] #7215316
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Legalizing drugs won't stop the black market.


It sure as heck would hit it hard.

The alternative is thirsty people sneaking drugs across the border. Our government has done a great job so far.

Re: Anyone live in the border? [Re: DWC] #7215352
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So you think legalizing meth, with hundreds if not 1000’s of super labs already in place in mexico, would stop black market meth? They would bring it over at 10 times the rate at 1/10 the price the gov would charge and not one gram would be regulated or taxed.

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