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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222507
03/21/21 09:19 AM
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/3-florida-women-arrested-1-205806841.html

These girls are not from the "hood". Pretty obvious Mom and Dad hasn't taught them much. Why should I give up my inalienable rights because of people like this?

Blaine , your right about judges and politicians. I bet I am more scared of them , than the politicians are of me.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222509
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Crit-R-Dun
Why all the insults?

Remember an education campaign aimed at children called "say no to drugs?" How did that work out for you? Children can and do make poor choices regardless of how much education is thrown at them. A good example might be why we start teaching them to operate motor vehicles on public roads at around 16 and not 8.

And I meant insecure.


An unloaded, locked up gun is of great use when that home invasion happens. I’m certain your wife and daughter will ask their therapist why you even have a gun.


I would never live where the risk of a home invasion required me to have a loaded firearm. Never mind have my family live with that risk.

Is there a place that home invasions NEVER happen?



Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222517
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Need to work on the hard problems. Drugs. Alcohol, opiates, amphetamine. Banning them isnt working. This is the result. Attacking gun owners is easier and a good distraction.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222518
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IMO firearm should be a class that is taught in our schools. A full blown class on rifles, shot gun, pistols, revolvers, ammo, loading of each, gun safety. Then when done with the class take the student out and shoot.


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222520
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IMO firearm should be a class that is taught in our schools. A full blown class on rifles, shot gun, pistols, revolvers, ammo, loading of each, gun safety. Then when done with the class take the student out and shoot.


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: Crit-R-Dun] #7222526
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Originally Posted by Crit-R-Dun
Why all the insults?

And I meant insecure.


Sorry, just have to ... When did firearms get feelings?


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222529
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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: Scott__aR] #7222537
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
Originally Posted by Crit-R-Dun
Why all the insults?

And I meant insecure.


Sorry, just have to ... When did firearms get feelings?


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Eh...wot?

Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: Blaine County] #7222539
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
My kids are around guns often and they know guns are tools. We shoot together. They walk past guns I have out, my reloading bench and ammo cabinet(s) without an ounce of curiosity or mischief in mind. My boys have their own gun safe in their room and my daughters have their own handguns in theirs.

However, we are losing this fight because "we" believe others think like we do. I've said it countless times: they don't. Judges, politicians and soccer mom voters don't think the 2A is important and are kind of freaked out by us.

Hobbie actually has a good point. We could use some counter marketing. Note, I don't think it's necessary to scare the crap out of the public with whatever commercial Hobbie is probably already out filming. Think positive. Scary can come in Season 2.


I know you think the worst, and Iím good with that. However,

The commercial I have in mind is a father or mother cleaning a handgun in front of their 7 year old and the kid asking why they have a gun. The parent then explains the why and even mentions the Constitution. Ending with a fade as the parent says, ďlet me show you how to handle it safely.


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222543
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Big D has the money to put out commercials. Big R does too but they only favor gun owners when they want the votes.


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222556
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You are right Hobbie, not many people will get my message, Nobody in fact but the ones that matter to me, my family.

I've pretty much given up on conservatives fighting the liberal take-over of America. Liberals have owned the media, the news, education and the courts for as long as I can remember. And now they apparently own national elections. They use those extremely powerful tools to further their agenda, to promote their liberal ideology, to brainwash our youth kindergarten through high school and then some more in college. They reinforce the propaganda on the 24/7 news cycles and on all the TV shows featuring a disproportionate percentage of minorities and LGBTQ types.

The entire time they were busy populating those various fields of endeavor and taking them over, conservatives sat on their hands watching it happen and did nothing other than lament the facts. Like a bunch of dumb frogs being slowly boiled to death.

Despite what many say and apparently think, liberals in positions of power are not stupid. Stupid is folks thinking that. They are very intelligent and persistent in their quest of power. And they've pretty much won at this point.

So all I can do is raise my kids to have the proper respect for firearms. There have always been loaded guns in my house and outbuildings. Been that way for generations of my family. And none of us ever shot anything we weren't supposed to.


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222576
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Blaine County
My kids are around guns often and they know guns are tools. We shoot together. They walk past guns I have out, my reloading bench and ammo cabinet(s) without an ounce of curiosity or mischief in mind. My boys have their own gun safe in their room and my daughters have their own handguns in theirs.

However, we are losing this fight because "we" believe others think like we do. I've said it countless times: they don't. Judges, politicians and soccer mom voters don't think the 2A is important and are kind of freaked out by us.

Hobbie actually has a good point. We could use some counter marketing. Note, I don't think it's necessary to scare the crap out of the public with whatever commercial Hobbie is probably already out filming. Think positive. Scary can come in Season 2.


I know you think the worst, and Iím good with that. However,

The commercial I have in mind is a father or mother cleaning a handgun in front of their 7 year old and the kid asking why they have a gun. The parent then explains the why and even mentions the Constitution. Ending with a fade as the parent says, ďlet me show you how to handle it safely.


That is good theme.


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: Crit-R-Dun] #7222577
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Originally Posted by Crit-R-Dun
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
[quote=Crit-R-Dun]Why all the insults?

Remember an education campaign aimed at children called "say no to drugs?" How did that work out for you? Children can and do make poor choices regardless of how much education is thrown at them. A good example might be why we start teaching them to operate motor vehicles on public roads at around 16 and not 8.


I would never live where the risk of a home invasion required me to have a loaded firearm. Never mind have my family live with that risk.




You got to remember home invasions and break ins are only one kick away. Does not matter where you live.
So live your life style and when someone kicks in your door, tell them to hold on, and let you get your weapon and your bullet, Barney (Barney was said in jest wink ).

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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222581
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He keeps a broken hockey stick next to his door to defend his family with.


Eh...wot?

Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222838
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Why donít a bunch of 2A supporters take it on them selves to educate the masses? If it was me and for a cause so near and dear to my heart then why leave the educating to the dems? Posting a rant on trapperman doesnít help.


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222840
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what do you suggest ryan?


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222844
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Not sure exactly what to suggest there Danny but I think any action would have better results than a rant on trapperman. Get some organization going and educate the uneducated. You ever see the YouTube videos where a person gives straight facts to college students or people on the street who previously had no idea about a given topic but then they leave the conversation with a new outlook? Something along those lines would have better results. I get where youíre all coming from here but ranting on trapperman is preaching to those that have already heard the sermon a million times.


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Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222860
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There are a couple pro gun organizations. Gun owners of america and the 2nd ammendment foundation. Not enough money though to put out a bunch of pro gun tv advertising. Hard to compete with the people who own the media/entertainment industry. So what we can do is keep each other informed. Encourage one another to refuse compliance. I dont think the day is to far off when even the most liberal hippie will realize that advocating to get rid of their liberty was a mistake.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222862
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Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Firearm Commercial Rant [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7222868
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Get someone a video camera and post the constructive messages to YouTube. Posting there is free and it reaches a lot of people.


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