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Fox shock springs for coyotes question? #7223887
03/22/21 08:15 PM
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I bought six mb 450s to use as mixed species fox and coyote traps this fall, I will try half of them with shock springs to see if it makes any difference as far as foot damage. Will coyotes destroy the fox shock springs? Should I use a bigger size?

Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7223895
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... live market I’m guessing? ... if not don’t waste your money


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Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7223900
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No sir, I'm trapping small farms close to residential areas and I dont want damage to my catch or incedental domestics

Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7223905
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You’ll be fine with stock 450’s provided you’re on a 24hr check.

Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224047
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If not live marketing dont need em, imo. I bought 2 dozen shock springs years ago and I believe they do help, I still have em on some 450s and 550s, but its more to bury when bedding. I wasnt sold on em enough to put them on all the traps. On the domestics, set as far away from houses as you can

Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224168
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Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: Wanna Be] #7224193
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
You’ll be fine with stock 450’s provided you’re on a 24hr check.


agreed


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Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224266
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Im in the process of removing shock springs from all my footholds. Had them on all traps for live market coyote and fox over the past 3 decades. Dont do live market any longer. Will have about 20 dozen for sale soon. Both JC Connor and PIT.


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Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224292
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You’ll be fine without them. I ran shock springs on about a quarter of my 450s. I think they help, but on a 24 hour check they certainly aren’t necessary.

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Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224293
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I don't see what possible disadvantage the fox-type shock springs could have. I like 'em.


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Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224312
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Better than no stop shock

Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224319
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My understanding was shock springs were more of a live market thing to prevent shoulder injury.

Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224333
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I assume that after a few hours In a trap most critters just lay down and pretty much give It up. Unless of coarse if they are getting harassed then they will be up and fighting the trap. I see no reason to use a shock spring.


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Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224416
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Most do, some don't, I think it's for the first few hard lunges

Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: The Beav] #7224425
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Originally Posted by The Beav
I assume that after a few hours In a trap most critters just lay down and pretty much give It up. Unless of coarse if they are getting harassed then they will be up and fighting the trap. I see no reason to use a shock spring.

I don't know. I had a red fox on camera for hours. He never stopped fighting that I could see. The camera would take video like every five minutes.


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Re: Fox shock springs for coyotes question? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7224491
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I use shock springs and I believe they give me 2 advantages. On a shorter chain staked solid even the ones who flip summersaults cannot defeat the spring- they wear themselves out trying. I also like them on drag set ups- I think when I have a less than perfect pad catch they once again give the catch something to stretch out as opposed to defeating my (again) less than perfect pad catch.

On the big hogs I snare, IDK what I would do w/o them. I loop set some very large powerful springs and I am sure I would not have kept a couple catches without them.


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