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Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224208
03/23/21 06:49 AM
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My only real contact with Asians is while fishing below the local lock & dam. The only real problem is they seem to have no "fishin' etiquette" across the majority of the local fishing population as compared to us crackers and the colored folk.


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Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224246
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If you guys think James is extremely liberal you must not frequent any other websites. Just for fun go browse the front page of reddit and read some opinions there. They make James look far right.

It does good to hear what the other side says.


Re: Another view from the left [Re: keystone] #7224251
03/23/21 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by keystone
I couldn’t tell you the last time i even saw an Asian, maybe that’s because i don’t frequent the massage parlors.



James, I must say, you sure have a way of drawing out a special kind of people around this place.

Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224270
03/23/21 08:21 AM
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Everything in this country is now driven by political loyalty tests.

The University is trying to prove its loyalty to the left with the statement. And, don't underestimate the financial motivation. International students are lucrative for universities so I expect there is some additional pandering to keep the money coming.

Based on what I've read (and he can correct me), James is an old school liberal. Some of y'all will have to remember this country pre-2016, but liberal is/was not the same as a leftist. Liberals had different ideas than conservatives but could sometimes overlap on the political spectrum. Leftist are nuts. At some point, the terms merged but the goals and ideas did not fully merge--yet.

The same hijacking happened in my party. So called conservative Republicans cheering for big government and stimulus welfare--embarrassing.

But nuance is dead. Independent thought is on life support. Civil discussion is impossible. If one does not enthusiastically pass the loyalty test administered, he is the enemy and all should be outraged.

We are screwed.


Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224301
03/23/21 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by James
I posted the thread because I was curious what y'all would make of the above quoted material, which I received in my University of Southern Maine email-box. To find out if, despite it being drivel, there might be a grain of truth to any of it.

My wife says there is, but she's been influenced by the news videos showing Asians getting punched out on the street. Nevertheless, she points out there is some truth to white bias against Asians. See the gentlemen who suggested Asian women all work in massage parlors.

Jim



If you were to take main stream media reporting to heart, you would think an Asian was being beaten around every corner by white supremacists ,when in fact overwhelmingly the majority of attacks are blacks on Asians.

It's unfortunate that the quoted material you posted is becoming so prevalent through news outlets that it is driving apprehension and rapid divisiveness among racial lines. sad

Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224324
03/23/21 09:29 AM
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If your attacking 80 year old people your not a racist your just a coward is all.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Another view from the left [Re: Blaine County] #7224345
03/23/21 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Everything in this country is now driven by political loyalty tests.

The University is trying to prove its loyalty to the left with the statement. And, don't underestimate the financial motivation. International students are lucrative for universities so I expect there is some additional pandering to keep the money coming.

Based on what I've read (and he can correct me), James is an old school liberal. Some of y'all will have to remember this country pre-2016, but liberal is/was not the same as a leftist. Liberals had different ideas than conservatives but could sometimes overlap on the political spectrum. Leftist are nuts. At some point, the terms merged but the goals and ideas did not fully merge--yet.

The same hijacking happened in my party. So called conservative Republicans cheering for big government and stimulus welfare--embarrassing.

But nuance is dead. Independent thought is on life support. Civil discussion is impossible. If one does not enthusiastically pass the loyalty test administered, he is the enemy and all should be outraged.

We are screwed.



This post probably contains the most truth in this thread. We shouldn't whine about leftist drivel if we aren't willing to ponder the possible existence of rightist drivel and consider how much of that we might be blindly accepting. Kudos to James for consistently exhibiting his ability to have independent thoughts.

Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224354
03/23/21 10:02 AM
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No Kudos for left leaners....especially Biden voters Centerists = Socialist 2nd Ammendment loss


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Re: Another view from the left [Re: 330-Trapper] #7224360
03/23/21 10:11 AM
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Trump was no great friend of the 2nd amendment either. Not as bad as Biden but you need to be critcal of both sides if you enjoy freedom.


Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224367
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Let’s see whose worse in the next 4 years.


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Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224379
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It's not rightest drivel that has implemented sanctuary cities
It's not rightest drivel that has opened our border to an invasion of illegal aliens
it's not rightest drivel that initiated no bail
it's not rightest drivel that allows riots and looting in our cities
it's not rightest drivel that sets up bail promissory to those above that riot and ruin
It's not rightest drivel that pushes and promotes gun control initiatives
ect...

Where are these liberals that are pushing back against the leftists? Haven't seen any on the news casts.

Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224397
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Everyone thinks their tribe is best--see the loyalty tests being administered above.

Y'all should join me in the libertarian wing of the Republican Party--it's great over here, we get to actually think for ourselves.

Re: Another view from the left [Re: Blaine County] #7224399
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Everything in this country is now driven by political loyalty tests.

The University is trying to prove its loyalty to the left with the statement. And, don't underestimate the financial motivation. International students are lucrative for universities so I expect there is some additional pandering to keep the money coming.

Based on what I've read (and he can correct me), James is an old school liberal. Some of y'all will have to remember this country pre-2016, but liberal is/was not the same as a leftist. Liberals had different ideas than conservatives but could sometimes overlap on the political spectrum. Leftist are nuts. At some point, the terms merged but the goals and ideas did not fully merge--yet.

The same hijacking happened in my party. So called conservative Republicans cheering for big government and stimulus welfare--embarrassing.

But nuance is dead. Independent thought is on life support. Civil discussion is impossible. If one does not enthusiastically pass the loyalty test administered, he is the enemy and all should be outraged.

We are screwed.



Basically agree. The folks who framed our constitution were liberals in the classic sense. There are so many things out there that I don't agree with but they don't effect me... so I don't care about them. And I refuse to petition government to force my own views and opinions on everyone else.

If we had stuck to the plan where everybody minded their own business instead of trying to legislate their values on to everyone else we wouldn't be dealing with all this BS we have now.

Mike


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Re: Another view from the left [Re: Mike in A-town] #7224401
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Everything in this country is now driven by political loyalty tests.

The University is trying to prove its loyalty to the left with the statement. And, don't underestimate the financial motivation. International students are lucrative for universities so I expect there is some additional pandering to keep the money coming.

Based on what I've read (and he can correct me), James is an old school liberal. Some of y'all will have to remember this country pre-2016, but liberal is/was not the same as a leftist. Liberals had different ideas than conservatives but could sometimes overlap on the political spectrum. Leftist are nuts. At some point, the terms merged but the goals and ideas did not fully merge--yet.

The same hijacking happened in my party. So called conservative Republicans cheering for big government and stimulus welfare--embarrassing.

But nuance is dead. Independent thought is on life support. Civil discussion is impossible. If one does not enthusiastically pass the loyalty test administered, he is the enemy and all should be outraged.

We are screwed.



Basically agree. The folks who framed our constitution were liberals in the classic sense. There are so many things out there that I don't agree with but they don't effect me... so I don't care about them. And I refuse to petition government to force my own views and opinions on everyone else.

If we had stuck to the plan where everybody minded their own business instead of trying to legislate their values on to everyone else we wouldn't be dealing with all this BS we have now.

Mike


Good points.

Re: Another view from the left [Re: James] #7224404
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[quote=James]I don't see how some here can call me a liberal.

Then,,no wonder your Lawyer practice didn't pan out for you.
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Re: Another view from the left [Re: 330-Trapper] #7224417
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No Kudos for left leaners....especially Biden voters Centerists = Socialist 2nd Ammendment loss

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Re: Another view from the left [Re: Blaine County] #7224419
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Everything in this country is now driven by political loyalty tests.

The University is trying to prove its loyalty to the left with the statement. And, don't underestimate the financial motivation. International students are lucrative for universities so I expect there is some additional pandering to keep the money coming.

Based on what I've read (and he can correct me), James is an old school liberal. Some of y'all will have to remember this country pre-2016, but liberal is/was not the same as a leftist. Liberals had different ideas than conservatives but could sometimes overlap on the political spectrum. Leftist are nuts. At some point, the terms merged but the goals and ideas did not fully merge--yet.

The same hijacking happened in my party. So called conservative Republicans cheering for big government and stimulus welfare--embarrassing.

But nuance is dead. Independent thought is on life support. Civil discussion is impossible. If one does not enthusiastically pass the loyalty test administered, he is the enemy and all should be outraged.

We are screwed.




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Re: Another view from the left [Re: Blaine County] #7224422
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Everyone thinks their tribe is best--see the loyalty tests being administered above.

Y'all should join me in the libertarian wing of the Republican Party--it's great over here, we get to actually think for ourselves.



Yeah that's it , a comfortable place to hide from inaction

Fence riders are far worse than the enemy

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I'm sure there's some white supremacists out there. But what we have seen over the past year is the rise of black power and anarchist hate groups that the media by and large panders to.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Another view from the left [Re: Michigander] #7224427
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Originally Posted by Michigander
Trump was no great friend of the 2nd amendment either. Not as bad as Biden but you need to be critcal of both sides if you enjoy freedom.

You and JIMMY are the reason our country is in the shape its in.


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