Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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03/23/21 02:41 PM
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danny clifton
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Biden is flapping his lips and clucking his tongue. Talking about gun bans again. Amazing how many people believe that common sense gun control is not an oxymoron. Line right up with the Shummers, Pelosi,s Kamala's , Biden, Obama and Clintons of the world.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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03/23/21 02:41 PM
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I use to hump an M60. Really not that much fun. I'm not interested.
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: Dirt]
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03/23/21 02:50 PM
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[quote=Dirt]I use to hump an M60. Really not that much fun. I'm not interested.[/quot
Humping one, I never had to do that. They were heavy. I can imagine that would be tough. But, shooting an M60 and a 50 were great! That was firepower!
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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03/23/21 02:55 PM
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Mike in A-town
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If someone wants an M60 they should be able to have one... No amount of blathering on about common sense gun control will convince me otherwise. I don't care what tool someone uses to kill people, dead is dead, and it isn't the fault of the inanimate object.
If they can't be trusted with a gun they belong in a cell, a rubber room, or a grave.
Quit letting bureaucrats do your thinking for you.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
Vladimir Lenin
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: Mike in A-town]
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03/23/21 02:59 PM
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If someone wants an M60 they should be able to have one... No amount of blathering on about common sense gun control will convince me otherwise. I don't care what tool someone uses to kill people, dead is dead, and it isn't the fault of the inanimate object.
If they can't be trusted with a gun they belong in a cell, a rubber room, or a grave.
Quit letting bureaucrats do your thinking for you.
Mike I'm sure career criminals would agree with everything you've just said.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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03/23/21 03:03 PM
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danny clifton
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Career criminals are the result of a failed justice system, not machine guns. Anybody to dangerous to be armed should not be let out of prison or the mental institution.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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03/23/21 03:07 PM
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Here in the U.S. people get less time for armed robbery than refusing to pay their taxes. Drug addicts get 20 year sentences and gang bangers do two or three if their victim lives. If your serious about making the country safer start advocating for thieves and thugs to get serious jail time and minor offenses to get minor time.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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03/23/21 03:08 PM
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I agree. But, they would still agree with everything he's said. But, career criminals do get out. George Floyd did.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/23/21 03:12 PM
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Here in the U.S. people get less time for armed robbery than refusing to pay their taxes. Drug addicts get 20 year sentences and gang bangers do two or three if their victim lives. If your serious about making the country safer start advocating for thieves and thugs to get serious jail time and minor offenses to get minor time. There are many ways to make the country safer than what you mentioned. But, I agree with everything you've said. It's not going to get any better when you have people in authority talking about defunding and even dismantling police departments.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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03/23/21 03:16 PM
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Dirt
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"Racism has been—and unfortunately still is—such a prominent feature of so many human societies that it might be tempting to think of it as somehow "natural" or "innate."
Indeed, this is the conclusion that some evolutionary psychologists have come to. Evolutionary psychology tries to account for present-day human traits in terms of the survival benefit they might have had to our ancestors. If a trait has survived and become prevalent, then the genes associated with it must have been "selected" by evolution."
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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03/23/21 03:22 PM
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T7, there are many folks that go to machine gun shoots just to have fun and not kill people. Yes, I think anyone who wants to own one should. Fact is I can own one, but it has to be pre86 manufacture. That little thing about no new manufacture makes them fall into a price range above most folks ability. To solve your issue with kooks we should be hanging kooks. If a person commits a violent crime so terrible as to loose their rights for life, they should loose their right to life. I don't agree with the whole loss of rights over any felony thing either. Many felony charges are non violent crimes. Now if we hung all violent criminals, they would no longer be a threat to others, and the practice of hanging would be a deterrent to others from committing a violent crime. A month or so ago I talked to a fella fresh out of prison, he commented on how the 3 years he spent was like a vacation. He excitedly told me about work release and how he was hooking up with multiple ladies and having a great time. He said the worst part was the covid-lockdown as he couldn't go out and see said ladies, or indulge in the things said ladies provided to him. Now I am sure it couldn't have been that great of a time, but he sure wasn't saying how awful of a punishment he got. When a criminal no longer thinks of a punishment as punishment, the punishment is to soft to be a deterrent of crime. We should be punishing criminals, not taking away rights from everyone over the acts of criminals. Forgot to address your second question. No I have not fired an M60, but I have been around some being fired and familiar with the rate of fire. I did take the family to shoot a few sub guns as the kids could handle the 9mm offering. I would absolutely love to have a SMG in 9mm or 22lr to play with on our range. It would be much easier to handle and I could afford to feed it more easily than an M60, but I sure wouldn't say that you should not have the right to own one if you wish. Provided you are not a violent criminal.
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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03/23/21 03:31 PM
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danny clifton
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Yep. Death penalty only makes sense if its a deterrent. Its only a deterrent if its public again. Hanging is brutal and ugly. A perfect deterrent. Armed robbery, murder, sexual assault. All crimes people need hung for. In public. Courthouse lawn county seat where the crime took place. Time to end prison overcrowding and curtail senseless violence at the same time.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/23/21 06:59 PM
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Yep. Death penalty only makes sense if its a deterrent. Its only a deterrent if its public again. Hanging is brutal and ugly. A perfect deterrent. Armed robbery, murder, sexual assault. All crimes people need hung for. In public. Courthouse lawn county seat where the crime took place. Time to end prison overcrowding and curtail senseless violence at the same time. X2
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: Trapper7]
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03/23/21 08:32 PM
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It IS legal for anyone not a felon to own a m-60. Trapper7 your proof common sense aint common. Danny, have you ever fired an M60? While legal to own, they are highly regulated by the feds, which is as it should be. If you still think anyone who wants an M60 should be able to, you are the one lacking common sense. I'm with you in that I think every normal person has a right to own a firearm of their choosing. Are you related to Jimmy?
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Re: Another view from the left
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I am totally fine with buying M60s and just about anything off the shelf--by the way. Another dust storm headin yer way.
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Re: Another view from the left
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Got here late. This addresses the original post.
resentment—occurs when individual failure or insufficient status is blamed both on the system within which that failure or lowly status occurs and then, most particularly, on the people who have achieved success and high status within that system. The former, the system, is deemed by fiat to be unjust. The successful are deemed exploitative and corrupt, as they can be logically read as undeserving beneficiaries, as well as the voluntary, conscious, self-serving, and immoral supporters, if the system is unjust. Once this causal chain of thought has been accepted, all attacks on the successful can be construed as morally justified attempts at establishing justice—rather than, say, manifestations of envy and covetousness that might have traditionally been defined as shameful.
Jordan Peterson
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Re: Another view from the left
[Re: James]
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Yukon John
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Why do you guys continue to fall for James's nonsense? When you see a post from this guy, scroll on, and let it die! All he wants is to get a rise out of you!
Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
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Re: Another view from the left
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03/23/21 09:13 PM
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Why do you guys continue to fall for James's nonsense? When you see a post from this guy, scroll on, and let it die! All he wants is to get a rise out of you! ^this.
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Re: Another view from the left
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Why do you guys continue to fall for James's nonsense? When you see a post from this guy, scroll on, and let it die! All he wants is to get a rise out of you! Ancient Chinese Secret.
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