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ar15 and mass shooting question #7225188
03/24/21 07:09 AM
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foxkidd44 Offline OP
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k gang.....as most of us already know...the ar15 is a semiautomatic.....and shoots 223..................we also have semiauto 22, which is pretty much the same thing,,,, so why are these idiots opting for the ar15 when a semi auto 22 is usually cheaper and more readily available?? I was asked that question last night in a debate......and have to admit...they had me...because I could only answer with I dunno.....maybe its the intimidation factor??


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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225189
03/24/21 07:12 AM
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Don't give them any ideas. It's bad enough at is.

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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225192
03/24/21 07:15 AM
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When campaigning, Joe said, " any firearm capable of having 10 rounds or more will become a NFA qualified firearm. It will be registered and an enhanced background check will be made on the applicant along with the appropriate application fees" Presumably that will include any firearm with a detachable magazine.

So your 10-22 WILL be declared included as a National Firearms Act item.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225197
03/24/21 07:18 AM
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Because the left is promoting the AR15 as the most effective weapon for mass shootings.


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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225202
03/24/21 07:25 AM
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Gun of choice for most mass shootings are hand guns. Can't exactly hide an AR or other long rifle unless you're wearing a trench coat

Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225205
03/24/21 07:33 AM
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Because many have finally reached the tipping point in government control over the lives of free people. If the government intends to continue on it's current path, the people may not put up with it any more. The government doesn't fear what the people might do with .22LR's because you can't fight a war with .22LR.

The AR-15 is just the poster child because it looks like the "weapons" of war in the movies. It's been chosen to get soccer moms to support the ban. The ban will really be any rifle suitable for military uses. Expect all semi autos with detachable magazines and all "high caliber" rifles. They will probably put a limit on muzzle energy. .22lr may be exempted because it's useless for military purposes.

Two types of light arms are useful in a war (or revolt). High capacity semi autos let you work your way closer to the enemy and high muzzle energy rifles (semi or bolt) let you engage the enemy at long distances. Both will be gone.

And, don't think the republicans will attempt to stop this. They'll do a little theater performance to pretend to try to stop it but they fear you too.


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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225207
03/24/21 07:35 AM
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Your mistake is that you tried to find sense in an answer concerning gun control when all of it is completely without. Trying to find a sensible answer to an idiotic proposal is not an easy task.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225211
03/24/21 07:42 AM
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Why do mass shooters choose to use ARs? Because they are told by the the media and the democrats to do so. I was AKs for the longest.


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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225226
03/24/21 07:59 AM
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If you think that they stop at AR style rifles, I have a cheap bridge to sell and some nice property. Come at low tide


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225242
03/24/21 08:21 AM
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The definition they use will most likely lump semi auto .22s right in with the AR’s. Very important not to give an inch on gun control. As a matter of fact, with record first time gun owner sales, it might time to go on offense.

Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: warrior] #7225252
03/24/21 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Why do mass shooters choose to use ARs? Because they are told by the the media and the democrats to do so. I was AKs for the longest.

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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: FairbanksLS] #7225254
03/24/21 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by white dog
Because the left is promoting the AR15 as the most effective weapon for mass shootings.

Yep


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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225256
03/24/21 08:40 AM
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To get back on topic and answer your question, this has been going on for a while and people are starting to believe it sit sure has been said enough times in the last years.


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Let's go Brandon

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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: FairbanksLS] #7225341
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Originally Posted by white dog
Because the left is promoting the AR15 as the most effective weapon for mass shootings.

And don't forget, Nancy P. said this is the same weapon soldiers take to war! crazy


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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: maintenanceguy] #7225457
03/24/21 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
Because many have finally reached the tipping point in government control over the lives of free people. If the government intends to continue on it's current path, the people may not put up with it any more. The government doesn't fear what the people might do with .22LR's because you can't fight a war with .22LR.

The AR-15 is just the poster child because it looks like the "weapons" of war in the movies. It's been chosen to get soccer moms to support the ban. The ban will really be any rifle suitable for military uses. Expect all semi autos with detachable magazines and all "high caliber" rifles. They will probably put a limit on muzzle energy. .22lr may be exempted because it's useless for military purposes.

Two types of light arms are useful in a war (or revolt). High capacity semi autos let you work your way closer to the enemy and high muzzle energy rifles (semi or bolt) let you engage the enemy at long distances. Both will be gone.

And, don't think the republicans will attempt to stop this. They'll do a little theater performance to pretend to try to stop it but they fear you too.



Don't under estimate the effectiveness of the lowly .22 in the hands of a capable gunny!


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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: Scott__aR] #7225473
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
Originally Posted by maintenanceguy
Because many have finally reached the tipping point in government control over the lives of free people. If the government intends to continue on it's current path, the people may not put up with it any more. The government doesn't fear what the people might do with .22LR's because you can't fight a war with .22LR.

The AR-15 is just the poster child because it looks like the "weapons" of war in the movies. It's been chosen to get soccer moms to support the ban. The ban will really be any rifle suitable for military uses. Expect all semi autos with detachable magazines and all "high caliber" rifles. They will probably put a limit on muzzle energy. .22lr may be exempted because it's useless for military purposes.

Two types of light arms are useful in a war (or revolt). High capacity semi autos let you work your way closer to the enemy and high muzzle energy rifles (semi or bolt) let you engage the enemy at long distances. Both will be gone.

And, don't think the republicans will attempt to stop this. They'll do a little theater performance to pretend to try to stop it but they fear you too.



Don't under estimate the effectiveness of the lowly .22 in the hands of a capable gunny!

X2


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Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225481
03/24/21 01:10 PM
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it always astounds me that they are called " weapons of war" but I know of know military that carries them,,,let alone a semiautomatic


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225482
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
it always astounds me that they are called " weapons of war" but I know of no military that carries them,,,let alone a semiautomatic


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
Abraham Lincoln
Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225492
03/24/21 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by foxkidd44
it always astounds me that they are called " weapons of war" but I know of know military that carries them,,,let alone a semiautomatic

It's because that's what they think sells because most people don't have a clue what the military has or uses let alone.have fired a gun.

Re: ar15 and mass shooting question [Re: foxkidd44] #7225517
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it isn't what mechanically separates them it is that they look like what the army carries to the un observant

people have been told it looks scary and thus must go

it is all about the look not the function.

bolt action rifles with similar features often get mistaken as "those evil black rifles" by the un observant.


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