Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I know two different posters who saw "something". Neither are liars. Can't help but wonder what they saw. Can't blame either of them if they don't chime in due to ridicule. Me, I don't think the creature exists. No bones, no fur, no bodies.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/27/21 05:25 PM
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I know two different posters who saw "something". Neither are liars. Can't help but wonder what they saw. Can't blame either of them if they don't chime in due to ridicule. Me, I don't think the creature exists. No bones, no fur, no bodies. And no clear photos. With the thousands if trail cameras set all around the country; why is there not one verifiable photo or video? I place Bigfoot a couple of steps below "black panthers" or melanistic mountain lions in the United States. Yes, there are melanistic African leopards in zoos and probably private collections too. There are also melanistic jaguars in zoos and probably private collections too. I have seen black jaguars in a zoo in the Arbuckle Mountains in Oklahoma many years ago.
Note to self- Engage brain before opening mouth (or hitting the ENTER key/SUBMIT button).
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/27/21 05:26 PM
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I'm a arm chair researcher, I find the odyssey fascinating.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/27/21 06:29 PM
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There are tons of photos, videos, I witness accounts, even from figures of authority. DNA, hair, tissue, blood. It’s all been collected some no doubt legitimate hoax but some maybe not. Does anyone really think the government or authorities would admit to it? Same as Aliens or any other conspiracy. The Goverment is great at telling you what to think and what not to think.
I’ve never had an encounter, don’t really want to. But I sure as the heck don’t believe it’s impossible just because scientists and the Government say so. When real folks loggers, ranchers, pro hunting guides, miners, etc say they see something or collect evidence I put more stock in that.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: ZAC]
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There are tons of photos, videos, I witness accounts, even from figures of authority. DNA, hair, tissue, blood. It’s all been collected Where?? Are you now gonna tell me that all those people gave all their evidence to "the government?"
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: ZAC]
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There are tons of photos, videos, I witness accounts, even from figures of authority. DNA, hair, tissue, blood. It’s all been collected some no doubt legitimate hoax but some maybe not. Does anyone really think the government or authorities would admit to it? Same as Aliens or any other conspiracy. The Goverment is great at telling you what to think and what not to think.
I’ve never had an encounter, don’t really want to. But I sure as the heck don’t believe it’s impossible just because scientists and the Government say so. When real folks loggers, ranchers, pro hunting guides, miners, etc say they see something or collect evidence I put more stock in that. They're probably hanging out with ETs and the Easter Bunny. If ya run across the Tooth Fairy,tell the heifer she owes me for one I had pulled in January !!
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: KenaiKid]
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03/27/21 06:42 PM
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There are tons of photos, videos, I witness accounts, even from figures of authority. DNA, hair, tissue, blood. It’s all been collected Where?? Are you now gonna tell me that all those people gave all their evidence to "the government?" The evidence is out there, got do your own research and I ain't looking for a debate so..
Pure Blood
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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If they're out there they must reproducing and the population must be growing so it's just a matter of time. I remember when people laughed at my brother when he saw a bobcat in Nebraska back in the early 70s. 25 yrs ago the wardens were telling us what we were seeing weren't mountain loins but rather house cats too. Now there's a season on them.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Tons of evidence out there submitted, documented, hushed and possibly covered up or lost of explained away. But unless Uncle Joe comes out and says it’s true you wont believe it? Or unless one kicks yourslats in while your Turkey hunting, it cannot exist. There are many species you have never seen or witnessed in real life other than books, biologist, internet or Government officials. But you buy it hook line and sinker that it’s real? Don’t you think they could do just the opposite and tell you something isn’t real?
Believe only half of what you see and none of what you hear. Just because it didn’t happen to you doesn’t mean it isn’t true.... doesn’t mean it is, but doesn’t mean it isn’t.
Who do you give more credibility to, Scientists funded by Government or Government officials? Or real outdoorsmen? Guides, loggers, ranchers, miners, Hunters, Trappers?????
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Pirogue]
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03/27/21 07:06 PM
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There are tons of photos, videos, I witness accounts, even from figures of authority. DNA, hair, tissue, blood. It’s all been collected some no doubt legitimate hoax but some maybe not. Does anyone really think the government or authorities would admit to it? Same as Aliens or any other conspiracy. The Goverment is great at telling you what to think and what not to think.
I’ve never had an encounter, don’t really want to. But I sure as the heck don’t believe it’s impossible just because scientists and the Government say so. When real folks loggers, ranchers, pro hunting guides, miners, etc say they see something or collect evidence I put more stock in that. They're probably hanging out with ETs and the Easter Bunny. If ya run across the Tooth Fairy,tell the heifer she owes me for one I had pulled in January !! I have a very good friend, we grew up together actually. He held the same views as you until he had "something" walk by him at 20 yards while deer hunting, he doesn't hunt anymore. His encounter is what started my search into this odyssey.
Pure Blood
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Oley]
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Absolutely 100% real I’ve seen one up close and I could give a crap whether anyone believes me or not. Care to share?
Pure Blood
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
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I think why no one has seen him is because he is the KING of hide and seek. Oh yeah. See, they're multi dimensional. They can change dimensions just like you go in and out of your front door. One minute you're watchin' him and the next minute he's on the planet Kolob digging for ice worms or looking at the sea bees glitter somewhere in Orion's Belt.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Millions of game cams out. Snow in the north. Pretty easy to track Aint happening!!
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I is 1... Or at least use to be 1... PM me your phone # and I'll send you proof...
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
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Millions of game cams out. Snow in the north. Pretty easy to track Aint happening!! X2
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: rex123]
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I really hope somewhere there are some . X2...and I hope mankind NEVER finds them! Not that I don't wanna know the truth, but because it'll just be another race tha I'm sposedly supreme over! Lol, no really, we would screw up their whole existence...for what?
Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Yukon John]
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03/27/21 11:30 PM
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I really hope somewhere there are some . X2...and I hope mankind NEVER finds them! Not that I don't wanna know the truth, but because it'll just be another race tha I'm sposedly supreme over! Lol, no really, we would screw up their whole existence...for what? From what I've gathered we hold no supremacy over these beings.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Daniel Boone wrote in his journal he killed one. Would an ape like creature living deep in the woods be hard to believe? People have definitely seen stuff they cannot explain. I promise every one of y’all I have seen a big black cat. There are prints we can’t explain. I have heard of hair samples coming back as unidentified primate on multiple occasions. I’m sure we all have heard, seen if not a creature something odd, even smelled something odd. If the game wardens will lie about cottonmouths being in Kentucky the government definitely knows something.
Trapping is what built North America, why take that away?
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/28/21 02:25 AM
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Sure, there are hundreds of outdoorsmen who have seen something. But there are hundreds of thousands who HAVEN'T seen anything. That's enough to leave me skeptical.
Here's what I figure would be required IF sasquatch were real:
They must have such extreme senses of smell, sight, hearing to be able to stay out of sight of humans 99.9% of the time regardless of wind or terrain.
They can also detect old human tracks in the woods and have some sort of sensory ability to detect electronics, which is why they're never on camera. Maybe they can see/sense light spectrums or energy fields we can't, or maybe it's some kind of ultrasonic hearing. Enough to also detect and avoid aircraft, satellite imagery, drones etc.
For some reason they are extremely wary of humans despite very little interaction. Most species become curious and acclimated if they're not harmed. Sasquatch must stick to the dark of night, despite supposedly being an apex critter.
They hibernate or similar in the winter, with no exceptions. Only explanation for no snow tracks.
They make no kills or foraging discernible from other animals.
They leave no sign discernible from other animals.
Somehow they die or dispose of their remains so obscurely that people find prehistoric fossils more often than squatch bones.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Maybe he is a real life Chewbaca and he is the one flying the UFO's around.
Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.
Andrew Lang (1844-1912) Scottish poet, novelist and literary critic
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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After a year of being holed up with an Italian woman I can tell you they are real.
She'll shed her winter coat here pretty shortly though.
Millions of trees die every year to print environmentalist publications
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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why would there be a cover up??????????????? Whats to gain?????????????
Did you hear about the secret release of mountain lions, wolves and rattle snakes?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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So seriously asking here, anyone here do any of these stuff with bigfoot, setting cameras tracks ect ? I am a 16EEEE does that count ? no I haven't seen any bigger feet than mine around here.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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So seriously asking here, anyone here do any of these stuff with bigfoot, setting cameras tracks ect ? I am a 16EEEE does that count ? no I haven't seen any bigger feet than mine around here. Good grief, you don't even need snowshoes in the Winter!!!
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: danny clifton]
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So if they exist am I the only one who wants to hunt them? Lol I wouldn't call anyone on here a liar if they said they saw one, but i am skeptical. Iv heard every explanation from theyre monkeys to the nephelim You can bet if I saw one and had the chance I'd have a carcass to show for it. And I'd show it all over town before telling anybody in government. why would there be a cover up??????????????? Whats to gain?????????????
I can't figure that out either. If there is as much proof as people claim, it would be one heck of a cover-up. Aliens, sure, I can see the feds having motive to hide that. Sasquatch? I don't get it.
Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE]
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So seriously asking here, anyone here do any of these stuff with bigfoot, setting cameras tracks ect ? I am a 16EEEE does that count ? no I haven't seen any bigger feet than mine around here. How tall are you...with feet like that !
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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My bride has managed to hit every animal available to hit in our region with our vehicles, except for a ten foot tall 600 pound hairy creature. So my answer is no, they do not exist.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: danny clifton]
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why would there be a cover up??????????????? Whats to gain?????????????
WOW,,,never been a government cover up then I guess?? Hahahahahaaaaaaaa
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: martyd]
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I work with a guy that wears a size 17 steel toed shoe. Is that a big foot or what ? MD There's a kid on my football team with a size 17 1/2, now that's a big foot!
“We will visit the Holy Land and see those places hallowed by the footsteps of the Savior,” -Lincoln
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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So anyone who could actually possibly help me,please shoot me a pm,thanks Wolfie's In Box: " Hello darkness, my old friend, I've come to talk with you again ... "
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/28/21 10:15 PM
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I know two guys on here, one of them I have know for a long time, and they will both swear on a stack of Bibles they saw one.
My friend was with his wife and he and she tell the same story> Happened along a river in Wisconsin (it had a monkey face and long read hair, but it was only 5 or 6 foot tall
The other fella says he smashed a truck load of antiques driving through the mountains of Tennessee, when he avoided hitting one as it crossed the road.
Here is my story, make of it what you will, and no we didn't see anything but it was PITCH black
THE MONSTER
(Authors note: This story is exactly as it happened; there was no need to enhance it, as it is pretty unbelievable as it is. People have accused us of lying about it, or making it up. Well what purpose would that serve? I freely admit I was scared “spitless” and Arnold , well he was mighty concerned.)
The headlights of the truck slanted through the trees illuminating them in a ghostly fashion as we pulled up Walls’ driveway,. It was Thanksgiving Day 1992, around 3:30 AM., and as dark as midnight in a mine-shaft, as there was no moon and heavy cloud cover. Arnold’s Truck rattled to a stop and we stepped out in to the chill night air. We gathered the buckets of trapping gear, and slipped our pistols into their holsters. We got ready to do the loop as we called it, down the hill, up the valley, around the field, and back across the valley to the truck. Arnold and I walked along, checking our coon sets, talking softly back and forth to each other as we usually did. This part of the valley is thick enough to stall a Tiger tank. The multi-flora rose and honeysuckle creating almost impenetrable walls of vegetation, so dense that even in the daylight you can only see about 20 feet. The only way through is a single deer path. Strangely the woods seemed to deathly quiet, I mean no owl hoots, no deer or rabbits breaking cover, not even a breath of wind. It was a very eerie sensation, and suddenly I felt the hair on the nape of my neck stand up….
The Darlington Valley of Delaware County Pennsylvania has a long history of strange incidents and occurrences. Many people have reported seeing strange things lurking in the seemingly ever-present mist of early morning and evening. Far more people have reported hearing horrible cries, screams and roars coming from the dark woods. So horrific were the sounds some people vowed never to again return to the valley.
My Dads close friend Melvin and his girlfriend had an experience neither of them ever forgot. Melvin and his girlfriend (I can't recall her name) were um, ah parking down in the valley late one night. As usually happens they were rather involved in what they were doing, when suddenly behind their car "The Monster" let loose with its audio assortment of mayhem. Even before the cries faded away, Melvin had the car started and was laying a smoky trail of rubber out of the valley. He told his friends that this was no animal he'd ever heard. Melvin was a good ole boy, born and raised as a hunter and trapper, so he knew the sounds of the woods. However his friends being young punks, of course teased him unmercifully, calling it Melvin's Monster. Well it frightened him so badly whenever he and his friends hunted the valley he would not get out of the car till it was light and would always be back at the car long before dark. No one believed poor Melvin or his girlfriend. Yet stories of "The Monster" continued for years afterward even up till this very day.
I had heard the stories of the "Darlington Monster" as a child from both my Father (who didn't believe a word of it) and my Mother (who always said, “There is something evil in that valley.”) I personally decided that it was probably just different animals making noises and citified people couldn't explain them and therefore were scared of what they heard. Foxes screaming, coons barking and growling, and numerous owl cries can unnerve the unknowing. Little did I know that I would get a first person interview with the legend itself.
We were walking along guided by our trusty $1.24 flashlight, its dim sickly yellow light barely illuminating our chosen path. Suddenly it front of us this thing, beast, monster lets out this sound. (No I can’t tell you exactly how it sounded, since I have never before or since heard such a sound.) It started with a rumble like distant thunder, rose up to a howling shriek like banshee with a toothache and tapered off to a mad dog howl. It was so loud it reverberated in our chest and we could feel it strike our faces. Arnold and I both looked at each other and said, "WHAT THE (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) WAS THAT??????" If you think this was inappropriate language, all I can say is brother you weren't there! We drew our pistols and loaded them so fast, we could have beaten Butch, Sundance, or The Kid. This is all the more amazing considering the pistols were in snap down holsters and the bullets were in our pockets. We tried shining the light around but that did nothing constructive for our heart rates. All the more disturbing was there was now no sound, so whatever made that noise was still right there in front of us just beyond the light. (The floor of the valley was cover with dry leaves so even a slight movement would be heard.) I will be perfectly honest with you; if I had been alone I would have turned tail and run till I hit asphalt (the nearest road is over a mile and a half from where I was.) I had a million thoughts going through my mind, “What the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) was that?, Why am I in this valley?” and “Why in the world do I have “Now I lay me down to sleep” running over and over in my mind?” Arnold suggested we should slowly move off to the right to our other sets out in the field. You can believe me when I say this was met with less enthusiasm than "The Charge of the Light Brigade" they were only riding into the Valley of Death, I was already there. I informed Arnold I liked the tree I was backed up against and daylight was only 1 1/2hrs away so why not wait around for it. Arnold coerced me into following him by starting off toward the field with the flashlight in one hand and a fully loaded and cocked pistol in the other. I sure as (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) wasn't going to sit there in the dark by myself. I quickly covered his back trail, with my pistol fully loaded and cocked as well. To say we covered the 200 yards from where we met the monster to the edge of the field where our sets were at carefully is a masterpiece of understatement. We were so slow and cautious you'd thought we were tiptoeing through a minefield. Thank God no deer broke through the brush or rabbit scampered through the dry leaves, otherwise there would have been a hail of lead laid down. We finally made it to the field edge without any more loud scary surprises. After checking our sets we had to re-enter the valley to get back to the truck. It was just light enough to see when we marched back into the valley. On the far side we heard the noise again. We continued back to the truck and got the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) out of there. Did this experience change us? Well yes and no, we were back checking traps the next day in the same valley, but now we had fully loaded pistols in unsnapped holsters.
Arnold and I have talked about this incident many times since then. We know what we heard. Arnold and I between us have over 60 years of experience in the woods, from southern Virginia swamps to New York mountaintops to Midwest plains; we have been to them all. We firmly agree it was no animal that walks the woods (to many sound variations in a short time), or human (no way a person could make those noises).
So you may ask what it was then. Well we believe it was a demon or other restless spirit, the whole valley is known to be an Indian burial ground. It is rumored to be the Lenni-Lenape royal burial area, but I’m not sure of that. I am sure what I hear and what happened though, and all I can say is if I never hear it again it'll be too soon.
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Nessmuck]
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03/29/21 12:07 AM
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I am a 16EEEE does that count ?
no I haven't seen any bigger feet than mine around here.
How tall are you...with feet like that ! Oh I am still built like a knuckle dragger so only 6'2" but I have a solid base and for several years I think 8-16 my shoe size and age were the same my daughter jokes I don't have a neck either which simple isn't true I have a neck it is just hard to see , I have 1 dress shirt to go with my one suit for funerals ordered with a 22 inch neck even then I almost never wear my one tie unless I am carrying the casket.to choking. when you see people wearing those neck gator style masks and the look comfortable they can just slip them up and there is extra room buy one , nope tight and choking.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 12:50 AM
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I don't doubt for a second that canines and cats can tell if a infrared light is being shined out on them or around them, seen to many come in at night and then the light flicks on, and they react to it, however they don't turn on the after burner like a white light, it's more of a walk around than anything, most just stand there and look at it.
As to the Bigfoot, never seen any solid proof, don't have any one I know in my 67 years here and hunting in several states and in Canada, that has come across any sign of one, have seen vids of what people say is one here in Utah in various places. But to me its a wonder you can make anything out of the vid even slowed down.
Could have been there, could have been a bear to, until one is shot or found passed away, or bones, for me it's a good camp story, have other things more serious to think about, really !
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 01:29 AM
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I thought I saw a yetti! C’mon people!!
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 02:38 AM
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Just a though when it comes to game cameras,
Wolfie; Are you talking about these newer 'Black Light' cams? Only, I set one every night ~ older, Bushnell Trophy. Hasn't got black lights. And, never mind infra red, when This thing activates? It's like a pocket full of rubies! I know, because I position it. Turn it on. Then go to the spot I set it to watch. Anything with eyes could see that. Don't honestly know what it does in daylight. But, I've had a house cat sitting, staring straight at it.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: MikeTraps2]
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03/29/21 02:43 AM
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I know two guys on here, one of them I have know for a long time, and they will both swear on a stack of Bibles they saw one.
My friend was with his wife and he and she tell the same story> Happened along a river in Wisconsin (it had a monkey face and long read hair, but it was only 5 or 6 foot tall
The other fella says he smashed a truck load of antiques driving through the mountains of Tennessee, when he avoided hitting one as it crossed the road.
Here is my story, make of it what you will, and no we didn't see anything but it was PITCH black
THE MONSTER
(Authors note: This story is exactly as it happened; there was no need to enhance it, as it is pretty unbelievable as it is. People have accused us of lying about it, or making it up. Well what purpose would that serve? I freely admit I was scared “spitless” and Arnold , well he was mighty concerned.)
The headlights of the truck slanted through the trees illuminating them in a ghostly fashion as we pulled up Walls’ driveway,. It was Thanksgiving Day 1992, around 3:30 AM., and as dark as midnight in a mine-shaft, as there was no moon and heavy cloud cover. Arnold’s Truck rattled to a stop and we stepped out in to the chill night air. We gathered the buckets of trapping gear, and slipped our pistols into their holsters. We got ready to do the loop as we called it, down the hill, up the valley, around the field, and back across the valley to the truck. Arnold and I walked along, checking our coon sets, talking softly back and forth to each other as we usually did. This part of the valley is thick enough to stall a Tiger tank. The multi-flora rose and honeysuckle creating almost impenetrable walls of vegetation, so dense that even in the daylight you can only see about 20 feet. The only way through is a single deer path. Strangely the woods seemed to deathly quiet, I mean no owl hoots, no deer or rabbits breaking cover, not even a breath of wind. It was a very eerie sensation, and suddenly I felt the hair on the nape of my neck stand up….
The Darlington Valley of Delaware County Pennsylvania has a long history of strange incidents and occurrences. Many people have reported seeing strange things lurking in the seemingly ever-present mist of early morning and evening. Far more people have reported hearing horrible cries, screams and roars coming from the dark woods. So horrific were the sounds some people vowed never to again return to the valley.
My Dads close friend Melvin and his girlfriend had an experience neither of them ever forgot. Melvin and his girlfriend (I can't recall her name) were um, ah parking down in the valley late one night. As usually happens they were rather involved in what they were doing, when suddenly behind their car "The Monster" let loose with its audio assortment of mayhem. Even before the cries faded away, Melvin had the car started and was laying a smoky trail of rubber out of the valley. He told his friends that this was no animal he'd ever heard. Melvin was a good ole boy, born and raised as a hunter and trapper, so he knew the sounds of the woods. However his friends being young punks, of course teased him unmercifully, calling it Melvin's Monster. Well it frightened him so badly whenever he and his friends hunted the valley he would not get out of the car till it was light and would always be back at the car long before dark. No one believed poor Melvin or his girlfriend. Yet stories of "The Monster" continued for years afterward even up till this very day.
I had heard the stories of the "Darlington Monster" as a child from both my Father (who didn't believe a word of it) and my Mother (who always said, “There is something evil in that valley.”) I personally decided that it was probably just different animals making noises and citified people couldn't explain them and therefore were scared of what they heard. Foxes screaming, coons barking and growling, and numerous owl cries can unnerve the unknowing. Little did I know that I would get a first person interview with the legend itself.
We were walking along guided by our trusty $1.24 flashlight, its dim sickly yellow light barely illuminating our chosen path. Suddenly it front of us this thing, beast, monster lets out this sound. (No I can’t tell you exactly how it sounded, since I have never before or since heard such a sound.) It started with a rumble like distant thunder, rose up to a howling shriek like banshee with a toothache and tapered off to a mad dog howl. It was so loud it reverberated in our chest and we could feel it strike our faces. Arnold and I both looked at each other and said, "WHAT THE (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) WAS THAT??????" If you think this was inappropriate language, all I can say is brother you weren't there! We drew our pistols and loaded them so fast, we could have beaten Butch, Sundance, or The Kid. This is all the more amazing considering the pistols were in snap down holsters and the bullets were in our pockets. We tried shining the light around but that did nothing constructive for our heart rates. All the more disturbing was there was now no sound, so whatever made that noise was still right there in front of us just beyond the light. (The floor of the valley was cover with dry leaves so even a slight movement would be heard.) I will be perfectly honest with you; if I had been alone I would have turned tail and run till I hit asphalt (the nearest road is over a mile and a half from where I was.) I had a million thoughts going through my mind, “What the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) was that?, Why am I in this valley?” and “Why in the world do I have “Now I lay me down to sleep” running over and over in my mind?” Arnold suggested we should slowly move off to the right to our other sets out in the field. You can believe me when I say this was met with less enthusiasm than "The Charge of the Light Brigade" they were only riding into the Valley of Death, I was already there. I informed Arnold I liked the tree I was backed up against and daylight was only 1 1/2hrs away so why not wait around for it. Arnold coerced me into following him by starting off toward the field with the flashlight in one hand and a fully loaded and cocked pistol in the other. I sure as (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) wasn't going to sit there in the dark by myself. I quickly covered his back trail, with my pistol fully loaded and cocked as well. To say we covered the 200 yards from where we met the monster to the edge of the field where our sets were at carefully is a masterpiece of understatement. We were so slow and cautious you'd thought we were tiptoeing through a minefield. Thank God no deer broke through the brush or rabbit scampered through the dry leaves, otherwise there would have been a hail of lead laid down. We finally made it to the field edge without any more loud scary surprises. After checking our sets we had to re-enter the valley to get back to the truck. It was just light enough to see when we marched back into the valley. On the far side we heard the noise again. We continued back to the truck and got the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) out of there. Did this experience change us? Well yes and no, we were back checking traps the next day in the same valley, but now we had fully loaded pistols in unsnapped holsters.
Arnold and I have talked about this incident many times since then. We know what we heard. Arnold and I between us have over 60 years of experience in the woods, from southern Virginia swamps to New York mountaintops to Midwest plains; we have been to them all. We firmly agree it was no animal that walks the woods (to many sound variations in a short time), or human (no way a person could make those noises).
So you may ask what it was then. Well we believe it was a demon or other restless spirit, the whole valley is known to be an Indian burial ground. It is rumored to be the Lenni-Lenape royal burial area, but I’m not sure of that. I am sure what I hear and what happened though, and all I can say is if I never hear it again it'll be too soon.
Thank you for taking the time to share that !
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 04:45 AM
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Tooth fairy, unicorn, Leprechaun are for young people to believe in. Sasquatch, yeti, abominable, skunk-ape are for old people to believe in. Santa is for all people to believe in!
NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 05:34 AM
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They are 100% real I've had two encounters myself and a third encounter with my dad I will not argue or fight with anyone. I used to be a non believer after first encounter I did a lot of research there is a lot of evidence out there. I believe they travel and they are only in our area in the early spring and late fall.
Cpl USMC. 1989-1993
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 11:39 AM
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I guess my size 11 1/2 don't qualify.
Let's go Brandon
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 11:53 AM
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A reasonable person would ask how it would be possible for no DNA evidence such as hair, bone, etc to ever have been discovered. The ideas that such evidence exists but somehow is being sequestered from the public for our own good is beyond ridiculous.
Truth is we people all love a good mystery story and that somehow a chupacabra, bigfoot ,or yeti or some creature could avoid human contact and be out there.
If there were at some point one would have fallen off a cliff, or died of natural causes and bones would have been discovered.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 12:22 PM
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Poppycock. But have fun with it..no harm no foul.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 12:41 PM
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Government makes the rules. Davisfur, nothing you wrote makes any sense at all.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 12:46 PM
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In my opinion, the Bigfoot is the biggest sales scheme ever! With that said, I never pass up a Bigfoot show! If done right they are very entertaining.
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Let's go Brandon!
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 01:35 PM
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Tom Miranda has a bigfoot story but he will not talk about it. Probably saving it for a book.
If I remember correctly Paul Dobbins has a story of a camp site or work site up in AK taht was messed up by something and it was not a bear - maybe he can reshare. I have two friends that were paddling down a small creek in erural astern NC and tehy saw a money in a tree. As soon as they saw it they said it hauled tail thru the trees and was gone in a flash. To hear them tell of seeing it is crazy Not a bigfoot and it was probably someone pet that escaped or somehting but interesting none the less.
If I put my wife inside a high fence will her rack get bigger ?
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 02:17 PM
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It always amuses me that the arguments against their existence almost always include statements like where’s the BONES? To those that ask this question I would suggest let your fingers do the walking. A simple search for “giant skeletons “ will promptly show dozens of pictures of thoroughly documented humanoid skeletons up to 10 feet tall. Many of which have bone structure in the skull that is spot on with contemporary sightings, ie; sloping foreheads, oversized canine teeth, pronounced occipital ridge etc. I would also suggest that many people on here would react the same way if the graves of their ancestors were dug up and made into public spectacles. You would probably be more cautious about where you buried your dead I mean “come on man”. I have never seen or heard one but I certainly don’t believe that my lack of personal experience precludes their existence.
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 02:37 PM
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What’s that? Oh, CRICKETS!
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 03:21 PM
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A lot of people have seen them and some even have very good evidence. The nay sayers do not even do the simplest research. Listen to a few episodes of Sasquatch Chronicles.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: cmcf]
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03/29/21 03:55 PM
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It always amuses me that the arguments against their existence almost always include statements like where’s the BONES? To those that ask this question I would suggest let your fingers do the walking. A simple search for “giant skeletons “ will promptly show dozens of pictures of thoroughly documented humanoid skeletons up to 10 feet tall. Many of which have bone structure in the skull that is spot on with contemporary sightings, ie; sloping foreheads, oversized canine teeth, pronounced occipital ridge etc. I would also suggest that many people on here would react the same way if the graves of their ancestors were dug up and made into public spectacles. You would probably be more cautious about where you buried your dead I mean “come on man”. I have never seen or heard one but I certainly don’t believe that my lack of personal experience precludes their existence. Is "Piltdown man" among the evidence? Just wondering. I suppose there's no harm in people fantasying about things like this but the lack of critical thinking skills does concern me. That is how people start thinking that elections were stolen and things like that. Think about it. If they can find 4 million year old fossils in Ethiopia of extinct hominids, why can't they ever find just one tiny tooth to prove that bigfoot is real? Also, since hominids all originated in Africa, how is it that one branch of the tree ends up over here that isn't accounted for with migrations in the last 20,000 years? And if its the big bad government was hiding evidence why in God's creation would they do that? And when has the government been capable of keeping anything under the wraps?
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My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: trapper4002]
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03/29/21 07:10 PM
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They are 100% real I've had two encounters myself and a third encounter with my dad I will not argue or fight with anyone. I used to be a non believer after first encounter I did a lot of research there is a lot of evidence out there. I believe they travel and they are only in our area in the early spring and late fall. Where do they migrate to ?
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: AntiGov]
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03/29/21 08:28 PM
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I’m pretty sure they are headed south in the fall and North in the Spring. I live in the Appalachian mountains they can travel from Maine to Georgia.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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03/29/21 09:09 PM
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It always amuses me that the arguments against their existence almost always include statements like where’s the BONES? To those that ask this question I would suggest let your fingers do the walking. A simple search for “giant skeletons “ will promptly show dozens of pictures of thoroughly documented humanoid skeletons up to 10 feet tall. Many of which have bone structure in the skull that is spot on with contemporary sightings, ie; sloping foreheads, oversized canine teeth, pronounced occipital ridge etc. I would also suggest that many people on here would react the same way if the graves of their ancestors were dug up and made into public spectacles. You would probably be more cautious about where you buried your dead I mean “come on man”. I have never seen or heard one but I certainly don’t believe that my lack of personal experience precludes their existence. Is "Piltdown man" among the evidence? Just wondering. I suppose there's no harm in people fantasying about things like this but the lack of critical thinking skills does concern me. That is how people start thinking that elections were stolen and things like that. Think about it. If they can find 4 million year old fossils in Ethiopia of extinct hominids, why can't they ever find just one tiny tooth to prove that bigfoot is real? Also, since hominids all originated in Africa, how is it that one branch of the tree ends up over here that isn't accounted for with migrations in the last 20,000 years? And if its the big bad government was hiding evidence why in God's creation would they do that? And when has the government been capable of keeping anything under the wraps? You obviously didn’t search “giant skeletons “ like I suggested. And no there aren’t any pigs jaws involved. In fact there continue to be archeological discoveries of very large humanoid skeletons. One of the sites in Italy was shut down by the local authorities under the claim of heresy. There are many people that get really nervous when the evidence starts to threaten their ideas of what reality is.
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/29/21 11:18 PM
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Wolfdog, I want to know YOUR story! You've been lurking here, almost like you want to tell us something, but aren't sure you should. What's up?
Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: midlander]
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03/30/21 03:58 AM
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Not saying they travel that far but the possibility is there for them to travel that far in the Appalachian mountain chain without to many obstacles. Research the Appalachian trail then research Bigfoot on the Appalachian trail.
Cpl USMC. 1989-1993
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: AntiGov]
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03/30/21 04:36 AM
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They are 100% real I've had two encounters myself and a third encounter with my dad I will not argue or fight with anyone. I used to be a non believer after first encounter I did a lot of research there is a lot of evidence out there. I believe they travel and they are only in our area in the early spring and late fall. Where do they migrate to ? Going on "spring break"
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 05:13 AM
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Just to clarify, governments worldwide are concealing evidence of this creatures existence. They are doing it to circumnavigate endangered species protection acts. Indians knew about them, and traded with them. So presumably when Caucasians showed up they all went into hiding? They keep a sharp eye out for trail cameras so as to not show up on any. There are skeletons and DNA etc but government agents scoop it up as soon as it appears to deny existence of the creature. Sounds plausible to me https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/skeleton-giant-photo-hoaxFound a lot of hoax's when I googled giant skeletons and several stories of bones vanishing. Kind of like the sasquatch stories. Lots of stories and no evidence My gramma was scared of the little people. I was about 8-10 when I figured out she was talking about leprechauns. So I asked her and got a quick slap across the face and told to NEVER say that word again. Maybe the little people and the giants are in cahoots somehow?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 06:06 AM
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danny clifton
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Here in KS we have flying cougars. Everybody and their brother has a big cat story. Yet when it snows.....no tracks. I should say VERY rarely a track. The only explanation is they fly around till the snow melts. I think sasquatch must use aircraft. Some sort of advanced craft that doesn't show up on radar and appears to be a cloud when aloft.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: trapdog1]
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03/30/21 06:16 AM
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They leave tracks there is a lot of cast tracks
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 06:27 AM
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YouTube has an enlightening documentary named A Race of Giants. Near the end, the carbon dating of a skeleton known as Guadalupe Woman demonstrates that the scientific community is extremely good at ignoring any facts that do not agree with what they tell us happened.
I'm not sayin the exist or not, but like CMCF mentions there is more fuel for this fire and a lot of it
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 06:29 AM
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They leave tracks there is a lot of cast tracks Need to get a couple pretty good cowboys and 4-5 hounds. Run one down and rope it I guess.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: trapdog1]
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03/30/21 06:46 AM
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I can't get past the thought that anything that big is going to leave tracks everywhere. Where do you think the term "Bigfoot" comes from? There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of instances of tracks. There have not been any serious verifiable sightings or tracks since the late 1970s. The last remnant population of them was found in the Cascade Mountains of Washington and went extinct in the late 1970s. That's my theory and I have a lot of evidence to back it up, much more than I'm willing to put the time into putting it all on here.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 08:30 AM
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One December muzzle loader season I was hunting in 16" fluffy snow down on a low mountain and when I got on top of the ridge it was up to my knee's. I was heading west to the end of the ridge when I came across huge tracks with a six foot space between them and they were bipedal. I couldn't make out the track for identification but realized there was no belly drag marks in the snow and I was pushing snow it was so deep. It wasn't a deer running. I went on and down the front of the ridge and ran into another hunter that had come along the south side of the ridge and he saw the tracks in the 16" snow and couldn't figure them out either. I new this hunter and he has taken 8 bears and I have taken 11 and neither of us thought it was a bear or deer. The six foot spacing with no disturbed snow between them. They were the only tracks I saw going across the ridge, I believe the snow was too deep for the deer to be up there. A month later at my wifes banks christmas party I was talking hunting with with the husband of one of my wifes co worker. He asked me If I had hunted the area where I found the tracks. We have known each other for 30 years and we both criss cross each others hunting areas. He told me he was hunting up the north side of that ridge and found the track way also and couldn't believe the stride between the tracks going up the towards the ridge and it never changed as it went up between the rock ledges to the top of the ridge. This hunter has taken 19 bears and many large bucks by tracking them. He had a hard time following the tracks up onto the ridge because of the steep terrain, he had to circle east away from the tracks to reach the top of the ridge. He cut my tracks ( not knowing they were mine) and walked them until he hit the large track way and saw where I had checked the large tracks out and then went on west down the ridge. He thought the tracks where something like 16" long and 8" wide but we really couldn't make out any deffinition . He also said they were bipedal and no way a bear could go through knee deep fluffy snow and be dragging it's belly through the snow. The three of us couldn't come up with an answer as to what made those tracks.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
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03/30/21 08:32 AM
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Look up Dr. Jeff Meldrom he has 100's of cast and many very recent They still exist and still leave tracks.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Yukon John]
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03/30/21 03:47 PM
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Wolfdog, I want to know YOUR story! You've been lurking here, almost like you want to tell us something, but aren't sure you should. What's up? Lol, yeah you got me, I personally don't have a story, just always been into cryptozoology, however I have a freind who showed me some stuff she's found and well ,told her I wouldn't show it in an open forum but she's spooked pretty bad
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 03:47 PM
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Cmcf, OK, I looked up and read some of the giant skeleton articles on line.
Now here's your homework: Look up: "De-bunking giant skeleton discovery hoaxs"
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 07:14 PM
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Seems to me Bigfoot is just another religion. We've talked about faith on this forum before, and I'm struck by the similarities. The traits of faith is that it doesn't require analytical proof, those who have it choose to believe it usually because of a personal experience. People who have had an experience believe what they believe regardless of the rational of those who haven't experienced it. For those who believe, all the evidence is obvious, even though it may be insignificant to non-believers.
Sound familiar?
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 09:33 PM
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Wolfdog, I want to know YOUR story! You've been lurking here, almost like you want to tell us something, but aren't sure you should. What's up? Lol, yeah you got me, I personally don't have a story, just always been into cryptozoology, however I have a freind who showed me some stuff she's found and well ,told her I wouldn't show it in an open forum but she's spooked pretty bad I knew something was up!
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 09:51 PM
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Vermonster it is stories like that that make me hold out with a yeah maybe. Every time (almost) that I watch anything on TV or youtube I am disappointed but I did see a cool 3 part expedition documentary about trying to find the yeti over in Asia and Russia.
The Russian kids that all left their tents to die in the snow is an intersecting case study too BTW.
Wolfie, tell her if there is one around it is doubtful it is actually violent. If they are real it seems they are good at posturing to get you movin on as opposed to actually harming a human.
JMO anyway, and based on stories that may or may not be true...
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
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03/30/21 10:18 PM
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I is 1... Or at least use to be 1... PM me your phone # and I'll send you proof...
Donnie I'd love to see proof
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 10:19 PM
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I believe in the possibility. I had a guy last year tell me about his experience with something and showed pictures of tracks. He is a veteran and avid outdoorsman. It shook him up telling about it.
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
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03/30/21 10:23 PM
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I believe in the possibility. I had a guy last year tell me about his experience with something and showed pictures of tracks. He is a veteran and avid outdoorsman. It shook him up telling about it. What more proof are you looking for, did you take him for a liar?
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/30/21 11:58 PM
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He didn't see a creature. Only heard it. I'm very skeptical about it in places that aren't very remote.
I enjoy all proof people are willing to share
If it makes a track on this earth , I can catch it.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/31/21 12:07 AM
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Have you ever seen the Patterson Gimlim film? That's a start.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Leftlane]
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03/31/21 11:33 AM
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The Russian kids that all left their tents to die in the snow is an intersecting case study too BTW.
... The Dyatlov pass incident is what this is referring to: Hole cut into side of tents as peepholes Tents cut from the inside to get out Naked or barely clothed people running into the Russian winter Corpses foudn with eyes gouged out and tounges ripped out I watched a good one where they showed what was on the camera they found at the site. One picture showed a fairly clear picture, not saying what it was but it sure as shooting looked like a Bigfoot (they called it a Menk)
Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: grumley701]
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03/31/21 04:45 PM
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Have you ever seen the Patterson Gimlim film? That's a start. If im not mistaken, Patterson himself confessed just prior to his death that his film was a hoax.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/31/21 05:46 PM
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Beaverpeeler I read as much of the debunking sites as I could dodging the pop ups and the subscription requests Every thing I saw related to the 2003-2017 and stuff pertaining to photo shopped and digital alterations and lawsuits involving the Smithsonian. The stuff I was referring to is all early 1900s black and white pictures in newspapers of the era. Not much photoshoping and digital manipulation going on back then? The most striking one to me was the one from Kentucky with the two men on either side of a coffin? With the remains of a large hominid holding a child that was apparently taller than the men by half. If you zoom in on the head of the adult skeleton the similarity to modern artists representation of their heads is pretty creepy to me. As I posted earlier I have no personal experience with them, if they exist. The only first person encounter I have knowledge of was a family from Fouke Ar. that had several close encounters with a very hairy reddish colored ape like creature that walked on two legs and was about 8’ tall. Enough of the local people said they had seen the same animal that a movie was made about it. The legend of boggy creek. The towns folk were thoroughly ticked with the movie as it didn’t portray the events accurately. The men I talked with were very serious about what they saw and were all experienced outdoorsmen hunting and gathering a large % of their food from the land.
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: midlander]
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03/31/21 05:54 PM
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Have you ever seen the Patterson Gimlim film? That's a start. If im not mistaken, Patterson himself confessed just prior to his death that his film was a hoax. Have you ever seen the Patterson Gimlim film? That's a start. If im not mistaken, Patterson himself confessed just prior to his death that his film was a hoax. That’s false
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: midlander]
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03/31/21 06:25 PM
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Have you ever seen the Patterson Gimlim film? That's a start. If im not mistaken, Patterson himself confessed just prior to his death that his film was a hoax. Wrong, I know of multiple videos by men smarter than me where they breakdown the video and also the being and the mechanics of the being proving it not have human mechanics, they make no claim as to what it is other than it's not human. I'm not here trying to convince anyone of anything but I would say there's plenty video and audio out there on the internet to do your own research. To me if it's out there, I want to know what I'm sharing the forest with. I would rather not have a Mark Barton experience..
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/31/21 06:45 PM
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What was the Mark Barton experience you referred to?
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: cmcf]
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03/31/21 06:54 PM
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What was the Mark Barton experience you referred to? A simple search would reveal the answer to your question but knowing the back story (context) is important. He was part of a channel named " The trail to bigfoot", a research team researching in the Green swamp of Florida.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: midlander]
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03/31/21 07:18 PM
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"Hoax of the Century" is a film that explains the footage. Bob Heironimus admits to wearing the suit. Im certainly not vouching for any of them, Gimlin, Patterson or Heirominus. I can beleive there are not-yet-discovered species living in the darkness of the ocean a couple miles down...but for people to still think that giant apes are running around the woods, even migrating each year as some suggest...not so much. But as many have pointed out, it sure is entertaining ... https://youtu.be/4EicVEOtm1A Here's another look at the claim it was hoaxed....and I'm not on the "this is a ape" team.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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03/31/21 08:24 PM
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Hmmm all I found on Mark Barton was he shot a bunch of people in ‘99
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: cmcf]
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03/31/21 08:26 PM
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It's really something isn't it... There are more encounters similar but not, if that makes since.. Don't know if you noticed that channel has all but died now.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: 3togo]
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Nope, that one is going strong. Did you hear the nuclear physicist encounter?.....uffda.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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All I can say is I hope you non believers never run into one of these things it changes your whole world forever. I really wish I could go back to when I thought it was not real.
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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04/01/21 07:28 AM
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The only tale I think might involve a “new” species is the one written by the Swedish researcher Lirpa Loof.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Here is my story. I do not believe in bigfoot. Dave does. Now. I do not know what I saw. However, as I was coming home from FL a few weeks back there were signs for a bigfoot museum in the same area that we saw the thing. I didn't go to the museum because I missed the turn somewhere. I really wish I had hit whatever it was because it would have been a lot easier to explain that what ended up happening.
THE STORY OF THE MOUNTAIN BIGFOOT
One day in 1997, I agreed to help my friend Dave move his stuff to southern LA. Houma LA to be specific. Now keep in mind that this should have been a simple 5 hour trip, but when Dave is involved, nothing ever goes as planned. First off, some (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)-monkey convinced him that it would be quicker to go from Clarksville TN to Houma LA by going east to Chattanooga and then cutting the GA/AL corner. Everything went pretty smooth all of the way through Chattanooga other than the fact Chattanooga is a filthy (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)-hole filled with disgusting people. Or at least it was that day. We made it down to this area somewhere in the GA/AL corner which was mountains on both sides. Sheer rock walls covered in chain link fence so boulders will roll down and stay at the bottom of the road cut instead of making some station wagon full of little tricycle motors into a flat blob of blood and motor oil. The scenery was really cool, however, the road grade was very steep. It was easy to start to go too fast for the 10,000 hairpin turns the road made each mile. In one mountain valley we were driving through, there were a lot of deer which seemed bound and determined to kill themselves on my bumper. Now keep in mind that I am driving a Ryder truck, the biggest one they rent out, which is filled with about 15,000 dollars worth of antiques not to mention the household goods. Having to put the brakes on too fast could be disastrous to the contents. As we drive along, I am driving, Dave is asleep in the passenger seat. A small group of deer bolts out in front of us and I am forced to brake a little harder than I am comfortable with. Dave wakes up and says “What in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) is going on” I explain the deer and he reminds me about the $15,000 worth of his wife’s antiques in the back. I respond with “No (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), would you rather I smoke a deer and cause us to be forced to wait for another truck?” He didn’t. Dave goes back to sleep and I continue to drive down this mountain. I come to a gentle curve with a wonderful view of a huge mountain valley. There is a wall to the left and woods and scenery to the right. All of a sudden that is not the only thing I can see. Now there is this great big hairy thing about 7 foot tall standing in the road just inside of the white line. Just as I put my foot on the brakes, Dave wakes up and sees this thing 10 feet in front of him. Dave screams at the top of his lungs, as he is running up the back side of the seat with his (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)-cheeks, “WHAT IN THE (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) IS THAT HAIRY MOTHER (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)!!!!!!!!!!” Now picture a 230 pound southern Louisiana coon-(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) with the accent to match screaming this out. I hit the brakes so as to not hit whatever this thing is. Everything in the back of the truck slid forward at a rapid pace. Much faster than the front of the truck is moving. We could hear stuff breaking, but can not do anything about it. In retrospect I should have run the son of a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) down. It would have been a lot cheaper in the long run. We get to Houma where the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) is about to hit the fan. Now we have to explain to Sandy, his wife, that we destroyed her antiques, some of which were 200 years old and older because we didn’t want to hit a bigfoot. Naturally she thinks that we are out of our minds. She thinks that we are completely full of (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) and that we are morons because we could not come up with a better story than ---BIGFOOT. In the end, the damage was totaled up to around $10,000. Sandy was (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman), the insurance company was (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). Both Dave and I look like assholes to all of the above, and we have no proof of anything. I don’t believe in bigfoot. I think it is all a bunch of crap. Yet, how in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) do I explain a bigfoot stepping out into the highway in front of me and seeing it clear as day? Everyone wanted to accuse us of drunk driving, drugs, stupidity, and about every other thing they could think of. Neither one of us had had a drop of alcohol neither had either of us been under the influence of any drug. I was wide awake and alert with no fatigue. Think what you want, I saw it, a god-(This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) bigfoot. I still don’t believe in bigfoot, but what in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) was it? Some tard dressed up like bigfoot? A dummy? Something was there. Two people saw it. I think Dave pooped in his pants at least a little. Maybe I should have run it down. At least then I would have a body. If it was some tard in a costume, Darwin would have claimed his rights. If it was some sort of undiscovered beast, I could have held the carcass for ransom for any amount I wanted. Either way, in the end, all I have is a story which most people who are rational think is bullshit or the ramblings of a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman).
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Re: Any bigfoot guys
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All I can say is snake oil and hoaxs of all types were quite the rage in that time period. The Rune stones and lots of other not so elaborate hoaxs were considered a lot of fun.
You believers enjoy your special day today!
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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