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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230339
03/29/21 09:31 PM
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Wife and I have both had the maderna shoot , all good with both shots.


Let me sugar coat this
Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230366
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According to known data on other vaccines,longer time(within reason) between the initial shot and the booster produces a stronger immune response in the long run.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230370
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I just had my first shot of Maderna last Thursday and my second is scheduled April 22nd. I had Covid back in September and my reaction to the first shot was achy joints and fatigue but it only lasted about 1.5 days. I was told that because I've already had covid that my covid antibodies react more than people who have never had covid. If that's the case, I'm not real excited about the next dose but I certainly wouldn't miss it. I'd rather have some reaction from the shot than to get it again. The after effects from covid lasted for months so I can handle a couple days of being slightly ill. I haven't heard of anyone in this area that has had to wait months between doses and I think I'd seriously question your doctor.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230380
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Thanks guys for all your inputs.. Clears the air a bit for me.
I suspect the reason for the delay of the booster is due to lack of supply .

And you thought Biden was bad, look what we got !

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230386
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Originally Posted by grampy
Thanks guys for all your inputs.. Clears the air a bit for me.
I suspect the reason for the delay of the booster is due to lack of supply .

And you thought Biden was bad, look what we got !


I think we are neck and neck on the badness part.

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: Boco] #7230387
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Won't keep you from getting the virus, might lessen the affects of it. Doctor today was talking about people under 70 with no health issue's not taking them as they are experimental and no one has a clue what the long term effects of them might be vs getting a virus you have a 99.5 percent chance of surviving.

Been ALOT of strange stuff gone on behind the scene's with this virus, best i can tell globally they wanted to lower the world population, probably some grand climate change scheme. At any rate drugs that work/worked were banned all over the place and all of these experimental drugs are being pushed like they are the saving grace. I imagine in time more will die from these supposed 'vaccines' than will die from the virus itself.




I feel great after the first shot a week ago-cant wait to get the second one-its supposed to strengthen your DNA.
Only thing I noticed when I got mad the other day my skin took on a green tinge and a couple buttons popped on my shirt.


Sounds like giardia. Better lay off that swamp water


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230391
03/29/21 10:10 PM
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I get my second shot on Friday. First shot was a piece of cake.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230392
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They should have our vaccine passports ready when we get our second shot also.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230393
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Current guidelines are 28 days as previously stated. All the studies were at 28 days. There was some availability issues when Texas had the big freeze and Fedex shut down for a week. So the 28 days was relaxed a little and if needed you can stretch it out to 6 weeks between doses. The first dose is about 65% effective after the second it bumps up to 95%. I have heard of some countries holding off on the second dose to have at least one dose for all of their citizens. I don’t think anyone knows how effective it is if you wait several months between doses.

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230399
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Its good for 4 months-got my date for second shot like everyone else-in july.Stronger immune response the longer you go between shots according to science.Also allows for faster herd immunity.

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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: Boco] #7230414
03/29/21 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Its good for 4 months-got my date for second shot like everyone else-in july.Stronger immune response the longer you go between shots according to science.Also allows for faster herd immunity.


Source of this propaganda please. LLL


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: yousowise] #7230417
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Originally Posted by yousowise
Current guidelines are 28 days as previously stated. All the studies were at 28 days. There was some availability issues when Texas had the big freeze and Fedex shut down for a week. So the 28 days was relaxed a little and if needed you can stretch it out to 6 weeks between doses. The first dose is about 65% effective after the second it bumps up to 95%. I have heard of some countries holding off on the second dose to have at least one dose for all of their citizens. I don’t think anyone knows how effective it is if you wait several months between doses.

65% and 95% effective at what?? I have not heard it will stop you from catching or spreading CV-19. I will admit it make a lot of people feel safe .


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: LLtrapper] #7230422
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by Boco
Its good for 4 months-got my date for second shot like everyone else-in july.Stronger immune response the longer you go between shots according to science.Also allows for faster herd immunity.


Source of this propaganda please. LLL


Not propaganda-straight from NACI


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: Boco] #7230436
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Boco said,
"I feel great after the first shot a week ago-cant wait to get the second one-its supposed to strengthen your DNA.
Only thing I noticed when I got mad the other day my skin took on a green tinge and a couple buttons popped on my shirt."[/quote]

I hope you are only joking about that.....right??
If not I want to see the science (fiction) behind that assertion.

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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230456
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Relax I'm just starting another conspiracy theory to see how far it will go.


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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: Boco] #7230464
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I had my first shot Feb 2nd and my 2nd shot March 3rd, exactly 4 weeks later. First one was nothing but a sore shoulder, the 2nd I had chills, aches, tiredness etc. for 2-3 days.

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Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230508
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Moderna is 4 weeks between shots. Pfizer is 3 weeks. J&J is one and done.

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: grampy] #7230561
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I got my 2nd shot yesterday, 27 days from the 1st. They had to move the clinic up one day for the people administering it. Feel fine this morning, just a sore shoulder. Sore shoulder and a little ache across my back after the first dose for 36 hours. I did have Covid in December with very mild symptoms, not sure how that will affect how I feel/react to this dose. Vaccine seems to affect people as widely different as the virus does.

Re: Covid shots Maderna [Re: Boco] #7230577
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Originally Posted by Boco
Its good for 4 months-got my date for second shot like everyone else-in july.Stronger immune response the longer you go between shots according to science.Also allows for faster herd immunity.


If this is true why arent the doctors waiting for 4 months for everyone?? Or did you hear this on CNN?



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Originally Posted by MJM
Originally Posted by yousowise
Current guidelines are 28 days as previously stated. All the studies were at 28 days. There was some availability issues when Texas had the big freeze and Fedex shut down for a week. So the 28 days was relaxed a little and if needed you can stretch it out to 6 weeks between doses. The first dose is about 65% effective after the second it bumps up to 95%. I have heard of some countries holding off on the second dose to have at least one dose for all of their citizens. I don’t think anyone knows how effective it is if you wait several months between doses.

65% and 95% effective at what?? I have not heard it will stop you from catching or spreading CV-19. I will admit it make a lot of people feel safe .


Both Moderna and Pfizers shots have an effacy rate of around 95% after the second shot. It takes about 2 weeks after the 2nd shot to for your immune system to build up the need antibodies to reach it though. So after your second shot you still can get and spread it. The rates of infection fall off the longer out you go from the 2nd shot.
Moderna has a higher rate after the first shot than Pfizer. M= about 75-80%. Pfizer is about 55% after the first shot.

Of course like with any vaccine out there, there are going to be people who just can't build up the antibodies needed to become immune. I got my Hep. A/B vaccines early on in life. When I developed liver disease they checked all the antibody levels for stuff that I should've been vaccinated for to help prevent it. It was found that I had none for Hep A/B. I went through the series of 3 shots again for it. I was tested for the antibodies for the following 3 years every 3 months and never built up the antibodies.

When I inquired about it they said there are people who just can't build up the antibodies.
I did show up as having stuff for Hep C and they figured I had contracted it around 20 years old and my body fought it off. They did want me to participate in a study where they would basically try to give me Hep C, and see if my body fought it off. I did a hard pass on that because they couldn't say with even 80% certainty that the medicine they had to get rid of it would even work. If it would've been above 97% I probably would've done it. The only good thing about it was they told me if I did participate and my liver started to fail I would've been at the top of the list and a transplant would've been free and all follow up care/medicines would've been free as well.


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