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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: Rat Masterson] #7231868
03/31/21 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
80,000 rats and 110,000 coon, Groney will have that much dressed at their auction.

Not alot offered, what is considered a good average price for this section on finish coon an rats ? Hope next season is better as definately lost bunch money trapping,

Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7231871
03/31/21 01:46 PM
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Iím thinking prices might go up for a few species. Iím getting good high offers on my fur so maybe the buyers calling me know something that us trappers donít.


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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7231900
03/31/21 02:34 PM
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The last stuff FHA sold for me was record low. Have to double that price before I'd even get interested.


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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: Dirt] #7231908
03/31/21 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
The last stuff FHA sold for me was record low. Have to double that price before I'd even get interested.


Probably most PT too.

What I've noticed over the years is that most, but not all who ship will post pretty decent average the day of the sale with a side note.....but I still have xxx there that didn't sell.

Then about 6 months later those happy trappers are complaining about the price their leftovers sold PT for.
My prediction is Coonman will see some of those good averages on partial liter and be kicking his butt but in reality once all is said and done, he did just as well.

Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7231915
03/31/21 03:10 PM
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Hate to tell you this, but any averages below the reasonably profitable level are pretty much equally useless.


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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7231919
03/31/21 03:14 PM
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Probably why my traps have been hanging the last couple years. I'm not a for fun trapper.

Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7231978
03/31/21 04:52 PM
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How many coyotes are they offering?

Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: Marty B] #7232008
03/31/21 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty B
How many coyotes are they offering?

I heard 18,000


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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232010
03/31/21 05:44 PM
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Auction list says 30,000 coyotes.

Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232022
03/31/21 05:58 PM
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I hear that Groney has teamed up with Richard Hilton to put the sale on.


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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232066
03/31/21 06:49 PM
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Define "profitable"

This will mean different things to different people. What do you think you need to make for your time? Min wage? Double min wage?

Are you trying to make a living from fur? If so, gonna take a lot more to be profitable as you likely have more invested. How much fuel, bait, lure do you use in $$?

Trapping for fun. Likely not as much invested. Not as many traps set. Less invested.

What does it take for you to not lose money trapping?

Ive never lost money as it relates to my investment...even in poor market years and southern fur. My time investment drops it down low when markwt is poor, but I still dont lose money.


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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232083
03/31/21 07:08 PM
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I'm making at least $30 an hour on my alternative business. So, I guess, it would have to pay better than that. Subject to change.


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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: Dirt] #7232166
03/31/21 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
I'm making at least $30 an hour on my alternative business. So, I guess, it would have to pay better than that. Subject to change.

$240/8 hr day. $1680/7 days.

Ive made that and more trapping down here with live market coyotes, good fur market, service fee all included, but I could not maintain that but a few weeks out of each year.

Who can?


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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232195
03/31/21 09:11 PM
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Double that per week(before expenses) would be normal when marten were decent and other northern fur was reasonable on a mixed species line.
Couldnt do it currently.

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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232213
03/31/21 09:31 PM
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Do it all season with a $6 rat and an average population. 2x plus with a big population or higher average.

Trappers are notoriously poor business men, watch them barter on YouTube for confirmation.

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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232214
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I tried to set up a buying account 2 months ago with FHA. It Took them for ever to reply and when they did they said they would get back to me ...... unbelievable. I had a buying account with NAFA for 30 plus years and bought fur about every other year up till a few years ago. I donít know whatís going on With FHA but if you cannot even get a account opened to bid thats not good. I Ask them 2 months ago if I could bid off the phone or if they were going have a auction were we could watch on computer and bid that way , still no answer from them. Unbelievable.
Donít know if I am wasting my time sending another email to the person that said we will get back to you or not.
Marty in Iowa.

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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232221
03/31/21 09:37 PM
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I tried to set up a buying account 2 months ago with FHA. It Took them for ever to reply and when they did they said they would get back to me ...... unbelievable. I had a buying account with NAFA for 30 plus years and bought fur about every other year up till a few years ago. I donít know whatís going on With FHA but if you cannot even get a account opened to bid thats not good. I Ask them 2 months ago if I could bid off the phone or if they were going have a auction were we could watch on computer and bid that way , still no answer from them. Unbelievable.
Donít know if I am wasting my time sending another email to the person that said we will get back to you or not.
Marty in Iowa.


That doesn't sound good for either buyer or seller...


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Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: NonPCfed] #7232386
04/01/21 05:38 AM
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I tried to set up a buying account 2 months ago with FHA. It Took them for ever to reply and when they did they said they would get back to me ...... unbelievable. I had a buying account with NAFA for 30 plus years and bought fur about every other year up till a few years ago. I donít know whatís going on With FHA but if you cannot even get a account opened to bid thats not good. I Ask them 2 months ago if I could bid off the phone or if they were going have a auction were we could watch on computer and bid that way , still no answer from them. Unbelievable.
Donít know if I am wasting my time sending another email to the person that said we will get back to you or not.
Marty in Iowa.


That doesn't sound good for either buyer or seller...


Or market momentum

Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232435
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It does not instill much confidence when they seem to be continuously overwhelmed with whatever is going on. I'm still hoping they can pull through.

Re: Upcoming auction sales [Re: coonman220] #7232510
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Anyone have any problems with FHA as shipper with lost goods,no payment ? Never did nafa ever once, never try FHA, should sometime next season

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