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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7235867
04/05/21 07:12 PM
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So groenwolds sell at FHA? I thought other way around

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7235873
04/05/21 07:18 PM
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I doubt very much that Groenwald’s sells at FH. They have many direct contacts overseas. Both ?Asia and Europe. They have no need to have FH market their goods.

There are any number of other major buyers of raw fur in the country. They all have their own overseas markets, for the most part.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: The Beav] #7235895
04/05/21 07:57 PM
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What did you average on your beaver sir?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7235901
04/05/21 08:02 PM
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I talked to Toby Edwards today the fur pickup is on. The info on the April 19 sale and how it will be handled is a variable. Canada is going covid kooky again.

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7236010
04/05/21 09:39 PM
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Of the major buyers, I heard groenwolds prices better other major buyers, not to say u could find better prices elsewhere , u would have be licensed to ship fur to Chinese buyers? Not work as trapper to send overseas ? I have go thru broker, I don't believe nowadays u find good broker as a trapper, years ago maybe

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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: wissmiss] #7236157
04/06/21 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss


I still say that getting ready for the upcoming sale is more important that jousting on Tman.


Couple questions, how many times do they have to get fur ready that has been there for years?

Are they year around employees?


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7236172
04/06/21 06:23 AM
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Probability around a 10 to 12 full time, with 40 or 50 part-time seasonal workers. Getting ready for a sale is the same for every sale, fresh goods need to be ticketed, some needs to be drummed, fur arrives from many different places over the course of a couple of weeks to a month. The steps to get it ready from ticketing it to building a sales catalogue take time.

Ontario is in a Covid lockdown so this is making it more difficult, they outright suck at their IT support, has always been their Achilles' heel.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7236282
04/06/21 09:14 AM
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I am not sure it is just sucky IT support. It may well be their lack of understanding that the wise use of technology saves them far more time and money than it costs. There are lots of companies around that have not figured that out yet so it is not just FHA.

I do not believe that technology cost was a significant reason for NAFA going under. Matter of fact, technology may have even helped keep them afloat longer. They had plenty of other policies that were their downfall.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7236334
04/06/21 10:12 AM
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Misswiss did you register as a buyer for the upcoming auction again?

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: Saskfly] #7236413
04/06/21 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Saskfly
Misswiss did you register as a buyer for the upcoming auction again?


Yes. I am registered. When they confirmed my reservation , the email said more details of how the auction will work will be provided when it is available.

As of this morning, no additional details. Too early to be concerned.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: The Beav] #7236513
04/06/21 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Originally Posted by wissmiss
At this point in time, the staff at FH is working to get ready for the upcoming sale. Sample lots. Catalogs. Putting pictures in the buyers on line catalogs. Lots of little details. Posting on Tman is not top priority right know. Getting ready for the sale is.

FH operates with a much smaller staff than NAFA had. NAFA had dedicated IT employees. FH does not. The person in charge of the web site also works in the warehouse. I’m sure some one at FH keeps an eye on Tman, just to see what is being said. Any post they might make would have to be perfectly worded so as not to cause problems.

In the past, NAFA would have employees that posted on Tman. They would post as NAFA employees and would post general information and try to answer questions. Just about every post they made turned into a whining thread. Members, like jtrapper, complaining about something that happened back in the 1980’s. Folks upset with Private Treaty deals. The list goes on and on and on and on and on.

What should have been informative threads went downhill fast. Eventually, NAFA employees were told they should not post on Tman. Possibly the same is true at FH. There is enough controversy on FH threads as there is. Why add more fuel to the fire.


The same old song and dance just a different day.


Right on Beav...they must be seriously busy for a seriously long time...they still haven’t updated my account for a piddly little check they sent me months ago. How am I supposed to make any sort of decision on what to catch/ship if they can’t have the common decency to inform someone what they are receiving a check for? You cannot tell me it is not in they’re computer system what sold PT...otherwise, how did they cut the check? I sure hope they don’t lose the napkin that it’s wrote on before someone has a chance to update my account.

And here we sit on the cusp of the last receiving date for a July sale. Conveniently, last receiving is before April sale results will be known too. I think I’ll pass until I find out what’s really going on!

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7236572
04/06/21 04:30 PM
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BvrRetriever,

Under normal FHA protocols you wouldn't even have known about that money until after the next sale. End of story.

Their board of directors just thought that with a lot of us suffering economic issues with Covid that they would get us whatever money we had accumulated via PT sales between September and December into our pockets just before Christmas. It will be accounted for after the April sale.

Personally I think it was a nice gesture.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7236582
04/06/21 04:45 PM
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https://www.furharvesters.com/pdf/pressreleaseAPRIL6.pdf

July 2021 Auction

Starting April 9th our auction facility is open for scheduled inspection to registered fur brokers and buyers. This is for inspection only and ONLINE bids will commence April 16th at 8am EST. This is an “ONLINE” auction and we will begin closing bids on April 17th at 7am through to the 20th.

Both European auctions very recently concluded and these sales ran for a few days longer than advertised due to increased interest. We decided to add an extra day as well to better accommodate our customers.


ALL PICK UP ROUTES ARE GOING AHEAD AS ADVERTISED ACROSS ALL OF NORTH AMERICA. The only exception is British Columbia and PEI which have been postponed for the time being.

Respectfully,
Mark Downey
Chief Executive Officer Fur Harvesters Auction Inc.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7236584
04/06/21 04:49 PM
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The auction catalogues are also starting to be released on their website under the buyers tab. Once they are released or shortly after the trappers accounts will show the grades and lotting.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: red mt] #7236601
04/06/21 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by red mt
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
My agent is saying that generally there is a positive buzz on the April sale. We'll see. And of course all the private treaty between September and April will be accounted for after this sale. I hear that it was fairly active in the PT realm.

Why would they bid on anything when they know they can buy at below asking price in PT room cool

That's not always true. Click on the sold catalog section and scroll to the bottom of the page, PT sales at the last sale were higher, grade for grade on most species if you compare the sold prices.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7237064
04/07/21 07:28 AM
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So many fail to consider the fluidity of the market. Can anyone recall what rats were selling for in the country last November? Seemed like sellers primary objective was to move goods. Regardless of price.

Under the circumstances I do agree that FHA needs improve communication and learn to take advantage of technology in order to break out and exploit the true auction advantage.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7237075
04/07/21 07:40 AM
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Yep averages were around $4.00 I know one guy got a $4.35 cent average on 1000 + rats.


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: nimzy] #7237082
04/07/21 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by nimzy
So many fail to consider the fluidity of the market. Can anyone recall what rats were selling for in the country last November? Seemed like sellers primary objective was to move goods. Regardless of price.

Under the circumstances I do agree that FHA needs improve communication and learn to take advantage of technology in order to break out and exploit the true auction advantage.


Yes, I can tell you. Not enough!

What do I win.

FHA has and will most likely be behind the times when it comes to technology, it's expensive. I don't like it either but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: The Beav] #7237099
04/07/21 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Well If you want a person to deal with your organization you need to be up front with those persons. And If you take a little flack when you post the information then so be It. No one likes to be treated like a mushroom.

They could hire Miss Wiss she has plenty of time on her hands and seems to know her way around the fur trade and auction process.


I wish they would treat me like a Mushroom. Mushrooms are more valuable than marten around here. I'm fixin to be treated like Ned Beatty again, I suspect frown


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Re: FURHARVESTERS [Re: ponyboy] #7237251
04/07/21 11:46 AM
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Marten...aren't those the new Alaska possum?


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