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Re: PPP loans [Re: Trapper7] #7237586
04/07/21 07:55 PM
04/07/21 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Much of the stimulus money went to blue states that were in trouble financially. NY for instance got something like 80B which still doesn't satisfy their debt. CA got a similar amount. Much of this money was sent overseas to countries for some of the craziest reasons imaginable.


That’s true but the PPP, paycheck protection program went to keeping people employed. Two entirely different things.


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Re: PPP loans [Re: bass10] #7237632
04/07/21 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bass10
Originally Posted by Trapper7
Much of the stimulus money went to blue states that were in trouble financially. NY for instance got something like 80B which still doesn't satisfy their debt. CA got a similar amount. Much of this money was sent overseas to countries for some of the craziest reasons imaginable.


That’s true but the PPP, paycheck protection program went to keeping people employed. Two entirely different things.

Looking at the list of recipients here, the people getting most of the money are the people who know how to fill out paperwork. Mostly, accounting firms, law firms and car dealerships. I don't think those businesses struggled too much around here.


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Re: PPP loans [Re: Wolfdog91] #7237634
04/07/21 08:36 PM
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Some of the biggest beneficiaries near me are people who told me they had their best year ever, creative accounting at it's finest.

Re: PPP loans [Re: beeman] #7237646
04/07/21 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by beeman
Here is another link to use to see what your neighbors raked in from PPP “loans”. This link shows recipients who received less than $150,000 also.

https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/search?q=

It seems every farmer around me got over $20,000. No wonder all the car lots don’t have any pickups in them.


I noticed the same thing, beeman. And I'm sure your local farmers as as poor as mine. whistle

Re: PPP loans [Re: Wolfdog91] #7237718
04/07/21 09:50 PM
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Amite county Mississippi
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I don't know fellas mabye I should talk to my tax lady and see if I can get a little something for a welder crazy


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Re: PPP loans [Re: Wolfdog91] #7237720
04/07/21 09:53 PM
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Re: PPP loans [Re: Wolfdog91] #7237731
04/07/21 10:02 PM
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Re: PPP loans [Re: Wolfdog91] #7237733
04/07/21 10:04 PM
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Just read through the list of my zip code. Apparently I need to fill out a form to get on that list as well, lol!! Everything from $800-150K

Re: PPP loans [Re: LLtrapper] #7237887
04/08/21 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
With out this program a lot more folks would be on the tit because they would have been out a job. LLL


They are on the tit. What difference does it make which program it comes through? It all comes from the same udder. It's foolish and unsustainable, and it's going to damage our economy for decades, if not forever.

If you really need the help, then by all means take it. I'll never begrudge someone accepting help when they need it. But if you're just trying to get the feds to make up your difference because you had a short year, then yes you are absolutely a money-grubbing socialist. It's not the government's job to make sure you're financially protected from world events. And if you're trying to get free money for no other reason than "it's there," then you're a despicable thief.

Once upon a time there were men of pride and character who wouldn't take a handout no matter what, no matter whose fault it was they were broke, no matter how much taxes they had paid. Today is full of men looking for any excuse to justify whatever they can get.
This tragedy in this debacle is two-fold. One, that the government is driving the country to financial ruin by printing free money in a poor effort to mitigate a problem created by that government. Two, that so much of the country, including so-called "conservatives" have been suckered into participating in this socialist inflation by believing a victim narrative. Both are very disappointing.


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Boco couldn't catch a cold.

But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
Re: PPP loans [Re: KenaiKid] #7237945
04/08/21 07:20 AM
04/08/21 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by KenaiKid
Originally Posted by LLtrapper
With out this program a lot more folks would be on the tit because they would have been out a job. LLL


They are on the tit. What difference does it make which program it comes through? It all comes from the same udder. It's foolish and unsustainable, and it's going to damage our economy for decades, if not forever.

If you really need the help, then by all means take it. I'll never begrudge someone accepting help when they need it. But if you're just trying to get the feds to make up your difference because you had a short year, then yes you are absolutely a money-grubbing socialist. It's not the government's job to make sure you're financially protected from world events. And if you're trying to get free money for no other reason than "it's there," then you're a despicable thief.

Once upon a time there were men of pride and character who wouldn't take a handout no matter what, no matter whose fault it was they were broke, no matter how much taxes they had paid. Today is full of men looking for any excuse to justify whatever they can get.
This tragedy in this debacle is two-fold. One, that the government is driving the country to financial ruin by printing free money in a poor effort to mitigate a problem created by that government. Two, that so much of the country, including so-called "conservatives" have been suckered into participating in this socialist inflation by believing a victim narrative. Both are very disappointing.



I agree with what you said but I do not think you understood what my statement was saying. The Payroll Protection Plan was meant to help pay employees that otherwise would have lost their jobs because the government mandated businesses to close. When business cannot open they cannot produce so they do not need to have workers. It saved jobs. It saved tax payers money because those people did not go on unemployment while locked out of their jobs by the government. When an employee has to lay off people and then the government pays them more in unemployment than if they are working then you get to where we are now. NO ONE WANT TO WORK!! There are now hiring signs everywhere here but you cannot get people to even apply because of the unemployment benefits. I guess that is a victim narrative.

What may I ask do you do for a living and did you loose your livelihood during this crap? LLL


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Re: PPP loans [Re: LLtrapper] #7238417
04/08/21 05:45 PM
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Here is one from an adjoining county. I left his name off.

BRADY TX 76825 $6,220 1 Hunting and Trapping

No employees, just a one man operation.


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Re: PPP loans [Re: Wolfdog91] #7238439
04/08/21 06:00 PM
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Yes, I lost part of my livelihood due to this crap LL, but not too bad. I was laid off in March 2020 from my job at an oilfield service company because oil prices crashed, partly/mostly due to covid. Then I worked from May-July for an industrial contractor that was deemed "essential business." I spent the rest of the year doing side carpentry jobs. There were times that my buddies living on the unemployment tit were getting more $ a week than I was working, but I couldn't see myself doing it their way. The Lord blessed me with the ability to provide for myself and my family, and to me it's just a matter of maturity, character and honor to do so.

I'm not claiming to be innocent in all this-- I received the stimulii, an oversized tax "refund", and as a matter of fact I just went back to work for my old boss who got a PPP loan. smile There's still not much oilfield work so he's using it to get shop projects done. Really I went back to help him out, as I'm taking a pay cut from my private jobs.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have assistance available when people really need it. I'm just disappointed in how far we've gone as a culture from the old days when there was personal pride in achievement and self-reliance. When a man would do everything in his power to avoid needing a handout, rather than doing everything he can to get one. It saddens me.

We also all need to remember that the only reason for all this government assistance is because the governments of the world wrecked our economy in the first place because someone said the word "pandemic." Someone who ruins you and then offers to help isn't a good guy.


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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Boco couldn't catch a cold.

But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
Re: PPP loans [Re: KenaiKid] #7238485
04/08/21 06:56 PM
04/08/21 06:56 PM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted by KenaiKid
Yes, I lost part of my livelihood due to this crap LL, but not too bad. I was laid off in March 2020 from my job at an oilfield service company because oil prices crashed, partly/mostly due to covid. Then I worked from May-July for an industrial contractor that was deemed "essential business." I spent the rest of the year doing side carpentry jobs. There were times that my buddies living on the unemployment tit were getting more $ a week than I was working, but I couldn't see myself doing it their way. The Lord blessed me with the ability to provide for myself and my family, and to me it's just a matter of maturity, character and honor to do so.

I'm not claiming to be innocent in all this-- I received the stimulii, an oversized tax "refund", and as a matter of fact I just went back to work for my old boss who got a PPP loan. smile There's still not much oilfield work so he's using it to get shop projects done. Really I went back to help him out, as I'm taking a pay cut from my private jobs.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have assistance available when people really need it. I'm just disappointed in how far we've gone as a culture from the old days when there was personal pride in achievement and self-reliance. When a man would do everything in his power to avoid needing a handout, rather than doing everything he can to get one. It saddens me.

We also all need to remember that the only reason for all this government assistance is because the governments of the world wrecked our economy in the first place because someone said the word "pandemic." Someone who ruins you and then offers to help isn't a good guy.


I agree. LLL


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Re: PPP loans [Re: Wolfdog91] #7239589
04/09/21 11:24 PM
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Count me in as despicable and living off the government tit. I'm only 41, and have paid in over 20K annually to the IRS for the last 11 years. The harder I work, the more I get taxed. I did not apply for any of the PPP loans the first go around; as I am self sufficient, keep myself busy, and will make ends meet.....

After I paid in another 20K last month to .Gov, my tax lady said that I ought to think about this PPP as a 1% interest loan to buy equipment for this year. I thought I might can use it to grow my business, or pay for next year's taxes!

This world and our government is so screwed up, I'll be fine if the dollar fails. I have prepared, and I hope many of you have as well. For what it's worth, Thy Kingdom Come, I wish Jesus would hurry the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) up!

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